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PSLF Student Loan Forgiveness
Posted on 7/18/18 at 11:48 am
Posted on 7/18/18 at 11:48 am
My wife has worked for a non-profit for over 10 years and has payed over 120 payments to her student loan. She appears to have 4 "Stafford" loans. She meets all the employment and payment qualifications for Public Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF), but the loan company claims the loan itself is not eligible because it isn't a "direct loan", even though my google research says that both subsidized and unsubsidized Stafford loans are eligible for PSLF. Part of the problem is that the loan was received in 2005 and the program started in 2007.
We were told by the previous loan company as well that her loans do not qualify, so it is probably the case and we are out of luck. But my fear is we pay the whole thing off and find out later it could have been forgiven. Does anyone know more about the PSLF program and if there is any way she qualifies?
We were told by the previous loan company as well that her loans do not qualify, so it is probably the case and we are out of luck. But my fear is we pay the whole thing off and find out later it could have been forgiven. Does anyone know more about the PSLF program and if there is any way she qualifies?
Posted on 7/18/18 at 11:56 am to lsumatt
I get irrationally upset when people talk about student loan forgiveness. Took my wife and I a while to pay off her loans...no offense, of course.
I have no assistance to offer
I have no assistance to offer
Posted on 7/18/18 at 12:19 pm to lsumatt
The feds are denying people left and right on loan forgiveness. Unless you have 120 payments in the exact correct payment plan, Denied! I’ve talked to at least 5 people with qualifying loans who did the paperwork, believed they were in the correct type of repayment program, and recently received notice that they do not qualify. (At least two were attorneys, so I feel reasonably certain that they were adept at understanding the parameters....others were PhDs in tech fields.)
The feds changed their damn minds, I think, and the available info on what was required to qualify was pretty vague. Have heard of ppl DQd for type of employment (contract 1099 working for nonprofits), for loan type, for payment plan type, etc.
Have not talked to one single solitary person who has actually managed to do this thing correctly and is expecting to get forgiveness this fall when the first 120 payments will clock.
The feds changed their damn minds, I think, and the available info on what was required to qualify was pretty vague. Have heard of ppl DQd for type of employment (contract 1099 working for nonprofits), for loan type, for payment plan type, etc.
Have not talked to one single solitary person who has actually managed to do this thing correctly and is expecting to get forgiveness this fall when the first 120 payments will clock.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 12:19 pm to lsumatt
Yes, only certain loans qualify, however, a number of folks including first responders had this issue as well, so Congress injected a one time 350 million to take care of these people. Once the money is out, you're out of luck. First come first serve.
LINK
Look into it and give it a shot.
LINK
Look into it and give it a shot.
This post was edited on 7/18/18 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 7/18/18 at 12:20 pm to hungryone
The first people who qualified were last year.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 12:23 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
Man if Sallie Mae screws me on this I will be so fricking pissed. I enrolled in the program 3 years ago after paying almost 600 a month for a year. Lowered my bill a lot going to income based and after the payments they can forgive the rest.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 12:29 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
Thanks teddy. That article is helpful. Part of what I can’t tell is whether it is a “direct loan” or not.
I will look into this more.
I will look into this more.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 1:06 pm to lsumatt
Fed Loan Servicing is the servicer with exclusive rights to manage loans vying for PSLF.
You may want to reach out to them even if you don't have a loan with them as they probably know more about the program than other servicers.
You may want to reach out to them even if you don't have a loan with them as they probably know more about the program than other servicers.
This post was edited on 7/18/18 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 7/18/18 at 1:48 pm to lsumatt
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We were told by the previous loan company as well that her loans do not qualify, so it is probably the case and we are out of luck. But my fear is we pay the whole thing off and find out later it could have been forgiven. Does anyone know more about the PSLF program and if there is any way she qualifies?
I'm in it. You know (and this is really info for those who haven't already made 120 payments like you), you don't have to wait until you hit that 120 mark to get qualified and enrolled in the program. You can enroll after one month on the right payment plan. But that's the catch: It has to be an income-driven repayment plan. If you are on that type of plan and have a qualifying loan (not sure about Stafford), you can enroll in the program at any time.
As the poster above mentioned, FedLoan Servicing has the exclusive rights to manage all PSLF loans. You need to contact them. They have been pretty helpful to me.
Check here for more info: LINK
Posted on 7/18/18 at 2:33 pm to lsumatt
You should email the White Coat Investor guy. Jim Dahle is his name I believe. He always talks about PLSF, but then he makes it seem like he has yet to find someone it has actually worked for.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 3:05 pm to TheWiz
Can anyone give a definitive answer on the tax implications of this program? My understanding is that the amount forgiven is considered taxable income for the year in which the loan is forgiven. I.e. if you earned $100k and had a $40k loan balance forgiven your taxable income for the year would be $140k
Posted on 7/18/18 at 7:00 pm to tigercross
Loan forgiveness under IBR, ICR, PAYE and REPAYE is taxable as income.
Loan forgiveness under PSLF is not taxable. Huge windfall.
Loan forgiveness under PSLF is not taxable. Huge windfall.
This post was edited on 7/18/18 at 7:02 pm
Posted on 7/18/18 at 7:04 pm to lsumatt
Who is left holding the bag after loans like this are ‘forgiven’?
Posted on 7/18/18 at 8:21 pm to lsumatt
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not eligible because it isn't a "direct loan", even though my google research says that both subsidized and unsubsidized Stafford loans are eligible for PSLF. Part of the problem is that the loan was received in 2005 and the program started in 2007
The PSLF website is pretty clear on type of loans covered (direct only, subsidization doesn't matter) and when the loan could be taken out. Forgiveness thru PSLF is not taxable as someone stated.
If it's still around in a few years, I will miss out on 2 years of loan forgiveness (4 years of school) that were not the correct type of loan. Didn't realize that until this year. You can consolidate the loans thru the federal program and the total amount is considered "Direct". But the 120 payment clock restarts - reason I'm not doing this. But I got the loans saying I would repay them, if I miss out, it'll suck $ wise but that's what I signed up for.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 8:22 pm to weagle99
Exactly.
I don’t fault people for taking advantage of student loan forgiveness plans that are available but it pisses me off that they’re out there to begin with.
It incentivizes people to get degrees that otherwise aren’t very useful and disincentives people who can pay back loans from actually paying them back.
And we worked our asses off to pay them early and did without a lot of niceties/vacations that our friends were taking. Only to find out we effed up by paying them off early
Again, don’t fault OP I just don’t like the whole deal
And in fairness, I stated that this makes me irrationally angry. Irrational being the key word
Yes I is salty
I don’t fault people for taking advantage of student loan forgiveness plans that are available but it pisses me off that they’re out there to begin with.
It incentivizes people to get degrees that otherwise aren’t very useful and disincentives people who can pay back loans from actually paying them back.
And we worked our asses off to pay them early and did without a lot of niceties/vacations that our friends were taking. Only to find out we effed up by paying them off early
Again, don’t fault OP I just don’t like the whole deal
And in fairness, I stated that this makes me irrationally angry. Irrational being the key word
Yes I is salty
This post was edited on 7/18/18 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 7/19/18 at 10:32 am to TexasTiger1984
quote:
I get irrationally upset when people talk about student loan forgiveness. Took my wife and I a while to pay off her loans...no offense, of course.
I have no assistance to offer
Just curious...my message got a lot of down votes. Is it because I was salty or do most people think student loan forgiveness is a good idea? Genuinely curious to hear opinions.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 10:38 am to TexasTiger1984
You're getting blasted most likely because this type of forgiveness isn't like just making the loan disappear. It's a perk to taking a particular job. Let's say the worker has $50k in student loans, and at the end of their 10 years still owes $25k that gets forgiven. That's a $2500 per year addition. Basically it's a little over $1 per hour in additional salary. Even if you double it, it's not that much. Since gov jobs typically pay lower than private sector (teaching being a glaring exception), I don't think it's that bad. Would you prefer that they got rid of these programs and just pumped the pay scales a couple dollars an hour?
Posted on 7/19/18 at 10:41 am to LNCHBOX
Ah gotcha, guess that makes sense.
Still, i just think it perpetuates the problem of the student debt balloon. Government is in the business of financing loans and then 'forgives' some loans based on certain criteria. That money has to come from somewhere.
Still, i just think it perpetuates the problem of the student debt balloon. Government is in the business of financing loans and then 'forgives' some loans based on certain criteria. That money has to come from somewhere.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 10:45 am to TexasTiger1984
quote:
Still, i just think it perpetuates the problem of the student debt balloon. Government is in the business of financing loans and then 'forgives' some loans based on certain criteria. That money has to come from somewhere.
Do you have problems with other employers offering benefits outside of the standard salary?
Do you want only the most worthless of workers to be gov employees?
At least this way, you're not paying every worker the additional $1-$2 per hour that makes up this cost, only those that take advantage of the program.
ETA: I'm absolutely against a broad and sweeping forgiveness program for anyone with student loans. I just don't see a problem with this specific program.
This post was edited on 7/19/18 at 10:47 am
Posted on 7/19/18 at 12:01 pm to LNCHBOX
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That's a $2500 per year addition.
Paid for by taxpayers who work in the private sector.
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