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Posted on 12/21/23 at 12:20 pm to
Posted by mach316
Jonesboro, AR
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 12/21/23 at 12:20 pm to
ORCA, RAY, SHDW to name a few that I dabble in. Of course I own some BONK as well, only because it’s on SOL, and SOL seems to be grabbing most of the attention this round.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
42348 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 2:51 pm to
GUAC could be a good play too. They're building a liquidity locker for SOL so there's a good utility narrative.

It's down quite a bit from its local top but dyor. It could pump again as SOL pumps.
This post was edited on 12/21/23 at 2:53 pm
Posted by Chorizo chang
Statesboro
Member since Feb 2022
800 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 5:32 pm to
Jan 10th appears to be the approval date for the ETF. Sauces

Fox News
Posted by Chorizo chang
Statesboro
Member since Feb 2022
800 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 5:40 pm to
Anybody else in here own any Chainge? I’ve been holding a decent size bag well before they were acquired by a group called Coded Fi for $47M this week. It’s a great cross chain dex/wallet that I already really liked using for swaps

There appears to be alot in the pipeline for it, and it was already fairly hyped on ct. May end up being a pretty nice mover early-ish 2024 fwiw. I plan to add some more
Posted by mach316
Jonesboro, AR
Member since Jul 2012
4929 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 8:02 pm to
Jan 10 is the SEC's final day they can approve. Been reading that it could come as soon as tomorrow. I'm actually hoping that the market will take a breather for a few weeks after the news. Would like to get in a few alts that I didn't have on my radar.
Posted by Chorizo chang
Statesboro
Member since Feb 2022
800 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 9:22 pm to
Yeah I have a half dozen Tectum stakes that mature in a few weeks that I’d sure love to roll into a few things if we catch a dip
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
42348 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 12:22 am to
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Shill me your sol shite coins?


See above. Also, I would look at MNDE since Solana defi is getting hotter right now.
Posted by Hookah
Member since Nov 2023
349 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 11:20 am to
When do you plan on selling your MARA calls?
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82088 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

When do you plan on selling your MARA calls?


I went ahead and sold 90% of my $12.50s and 33% of my $14s today. I can’t be greedy, these gains far exceed anything I expected this strategy to yield. I just wish this was Jan 1 so the short term tax hit I’m about to take would be a 2025 problem. Will continue selling little bits of my $14s next week if we continue to be green

Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
86869 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 2:02 pm to
Mara on a fricking tear
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
42348 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

Mara on a fricking tear



I should have bought way more than I did last month. I hate this feeling.
This post was edited on 12/22/23 at 4:05 pm
Posted by thatguy777
br
Member since Feb 2007
2506 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 5:00 pm to
I would say never base a decision to close a position based on tax implications, especially options, that shite can turn fast. I have been there. Congrats on the winners!
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
38431 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 5:29 pm to
Some news on the Bitcoin ETF front..

Announced today that BlackRock is seeding their Bitcoin ETF on Jan 3 with $10,000,000.

I know nothing about seeding an ETF but this sounds insanely small... but enough to where they are confident the approval is in the bag.
Posted by 98eagle
Member since Sep 2020
3147 posts
Posted on 12/22/23 at 6:54 pm to
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Announced today that BlackRock is seeding their Bitcoin ETF on Jan 3 with $10,000,000.


So the SEC must have already told BlackRock that they are 100% going to be approved and more than likely on January 5th.

Front running a product with insider knowledge is illegal. It is only legal for them to seed their product in that amount just days before launching.

This post was edited on 12/22/23 at 7:23 pm
Posted by 98eagle
Member since Sep 2020
3147 posts
Posted on 12/23/23 at 8:38 am to
Arthur Hayes, BitMEX co-founder, says that traditional finance companies like BlackRock issuing Bitcoin ETFs could spell Doom for Bitcoin. His theory is that these companies will continually buy up Bitcoin to a point where Bitcoin mining can't be sustained. He envisions a scenario where major asset managers accumulate Bitcoin, immobilizing it in a “metaphorical vault.” Bitcoin needs movement to survive and miners can't survive if trading transitions too much to people trading ETFs within ETF fund pools. As ETFs buy up more and more Bitcoin, so less of it is available to trade in exchanges, miners will over some time period wither away and the network hash rate will progressively wither away.
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
38431 posts
Posted on 12/23/23 at 9:20 am to
I'm not sure I follow this line of thought.

Does gold need to move to stay alive? It almost NEVER moves.

The ETFs will push up the price to where miners are still profitable for the next 100 years.

This is not a USA asset class. The rest of the world will keep moving and adopting BTC.

Posted by 98eagle
Member since Sep 2020
3147 posts
Posted on 12/23/23 at 9:39 am to
As long as enough countries and people do peer to peer trading, then there should always be enough Bitcoin to keep the network healthy. It was good to see Argentina legalize Bitcoin use directly. More and more countries should follow.

The theory makes sense though but just in theory. I don't think it will ever materialize to be severe enough to damage the network. Hopefully ETF funds around the world will always comprise a relatively smaller percentage of all Bitcoin.

Gold is a different animal. Arthur said in the article that you could bury gold and paper money and come back a century later and it would still be there. Bitcoin has to have enough movement to keep miners a float. An extreme example is that no Bitcoin is bought and sold on exchanges for months. Miners wouldn't have any Bitcoin to mine so they would go out of business. As they started going out of business, the network would get weaker and weaker until the hash rate dropped enough to make the network very unsecure.

The article was released on Crypto News about an hour ago and is titled "TradFi’s Spot Bitcoin ETF Could Spell Doom for Bitcoin".

I agree with you that Bitcoin is not a USA asset class. Also I can't remember if it was Mike Novagratz or Michael Saylor who recently said that $30 trillion dollars will flow into Bitcoin just due to the ETFs. That's about a 35x gain from Bitcoin's current market cap. Not sure what time period, but as BlackRock and other ETFs keep trying to buy more Bitcoin, it will be more and more out of reach to buy up too much of the network and miners will make more and more money.
This post was edited on 12/23/23 at 10:44 am
Posted by Chorizo chang
Statesboro
Member since Feb 2022
800 posts
Posted on 12/23/23 at 6:27 pm to
Damn I totally missed this Solana shitcoin run. Watched people talk about it discord for over a month and just never took a swing. Watched some guys hit serious licks. Damn lol
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
42348 posts
Posted on 12/23/23 at 9:58 pm to
Solana itself is on fire right now
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29363 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 8:06 am to
I'm up 604% on Sol, and that's not counting staking rewards. I've learned my lesson from last cycle and already taken some profits. Sol still has a lot of runaway left,too.
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