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Norway implemented a new wealth tax recently. It's going as well as you can imagine.

Posted on 5/27/23 at 12:29 am
Posted by rickgrimes
Member since Jan 2011
4178 posts
Posted on 5/27/23 at 12:29 am
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The recent wealth tax increase in Norway was expected to bring an additional $146M in yearly tax revenue

Instead, an estimated $54B-worth of ultra-rich left the country, leading to a lost $594M in yearly wealth tax revenue

A net decrease of $448M+

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The Guardian estimates the wealth of the relocated millionaires at 600B NOK, or $54B. That would have been taxed at 1.1%, which means $594M in wealth tax lost

Norway raised NOK 16.1B = $1.46B in wealth taxes in 2019 (page 3 of the PDF below); increasing the wealth tax from 1% to 1.1% would have increased that amount by 10%, or $146M

The net decrease I cite in the first tweet relates to wealth tax revenue alone and neglects that the millionaires who flew the country would also have paid other taxes and would likely have contributed to the economy directly and indirectly.

Of course, one should also consider whether those people would have left anyway, etc. Still. A cautionary tale.

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This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 12:30 am
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
6209 posts
Posted on 5/27/23 at 12:54 am to
Taxing the rich is never the long term answer. Rather, it is red meat for the uneducated layman….and that layman longs for others to pay for the social privileges enjoyed in western nations.

The trick is balance tax and revenue /job generation in a harmonious manner. But that does not make good political theatre.


Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
1594 posts
Posted on 5/27/23 at 6:43 am to
Amazing how many times countries do this and never learn. Wealthy people can move themselves and their money easily, poor people can’t.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
14427 posts
Posted on 5/27/23 at 7:00 am to
The rich are rich for a reason. Dumping all the governments misspending on them and the middle class is not the answer. They never fix the issue which is the misspending. The Government has become too big! How many government jobs and agencies has been created in the last 50 years? Why ? Start with cutting the government/city/state jobs and agencies. That would be a start. Then follow that up with all the people that don't work leeching off the government. Continuing taxing the working people will lead to what is happening in : California,New York, Chicago, Norway etc.. Mass Exodus.
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
7829 posts
Posted on 5/27/23 at 8:25 am to
Yes. Taxing the most mobile group of people will solve the issue.

I’d love to see a wealth tax passed in the US in order to watch it flop spectacularly.
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9751 posts
Posted on 5/27/23 at 8:51 am to
"Unintended consequenses" is a phrase politicians like to use.
Posted by geauxtigers810
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2004
522 posts
Posted on 5/27/23 at 8:52 am to
Wait, people don’t want you to just steal from them? I’m shocked!
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17473 posts
Posted on 5/27/23 at 8:59 am to
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Wait, people don’t want you to just steal from them? I’m shocked!

No, just others.
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
5017 posts
Posted on 5/27/23 at 9:40 am to
Truly governments have no accountability with their money, and politicians are somehow so disconnected from where the money comes from that they just throw it away on anything that comes into their line of sight.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10312 posts
Posted on 5/27/23 at 9:56 am to
How is it fair for anyone to take money from someone’s earnings?

Consider that a government takes from people who get very little in return from that government.
Posted by Newgene
Waveland, MS
Member since Nov 2005
7235 posts
Posted on 5/27/23 at 10:19 am to
Anyone who didn’t realize they knew this up front is just naive. The plan was always to raise the tax on the rich. This was just a political ploy to look like they’re doing something for voters. Meanwhile, the bottom still pay nothing, the rich “leave the country” on paper, and the middle class take it on the chin. They actually don’t care how much revenue comes in for taxes, as long as their personal pockets stay lined from the folks that “moved.”
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
3692 posts
Posted on 5/27/23 at 10:33 am to
I remember when Carter instituted 10% luxury tax on expensive boats,yachts,and cars which mostly affected Mercedes.
Predictably,rich people quit buying yachts and Mercedes cars.Shipyards that built yachts had to lay off bunches of their employees for lack of orders.
Same for Mercedes,the dealerships were decimated.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33261 posts
Posted on 5/27/23 at 11:47 am to
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The rich are rich for a reason.
Yes. And in many cases, it's due to gaming these very governments you dislike so much. Should we sort those out for different treatment?
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41142 posts
Posted on 5/27/23 at 12:03 pm to
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Over 30 Norwegian billionaires and multimillionaires fled Norway in 2022, says a survey by the Norwegian newspaper.

This was higher than the total number of extremely wealthy people who had departed the nation in the previous 13 years, it added.
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