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Microstrategy down another 13%. Why do people fall for snake oil salesman like Saylor?
Posted on 2/25/25 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 2/25/25 at 1:41 pm
If Michael Saylor actually believed that it was inevitable that Bitcoin is going to $13 Million he wouldn't be blabbing about it non stop, he would be quietly accumulating Bitcoin at lower prices.
When Warren Buffett was accumulating a massive stake in Apple, he wasn't on TV every day yelling at everyone about how Apple is going to a Gazillion Dollars so you better buy now or you're an idiot.
Microstrategy was a failed company, so Saylor simply threw in the towel and said "wtf, let's just turn the company into the Bitcoin Pump Company".
We'll just do nothing but buy Bitcoin & tell naive people that it's going to $13 Million.
If it works it works, and if it doesn't then whatever.
He failed at making MSTR a viable company before, so failure isn't anything new for Saylor.
Oh well, I guess every generation has to learn the hard way.
When Warren Buffett was accumulating a massive stake in Apple, he wasn't on TV every day yelling at everyone about how Apple is going to a Gazillion Dollars so you better buy now or you're an idiot.
Microstrategy was a failed company, so Saylor simply threw in the towel and said "wtf, let's just turn the company into the Bitcoin Pump Company".
We'll just do nothing but buy Bitcoin & tell naive people that it's going to $13 Million.
If it works it works, and if it doesn't then whatever.
He failed at making MSTR a viable company before, so failure isn't anything new for Saylor.
Oh well, I guess every generation has to learn the hard way.
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Posted on 2/25/25 at 2:03 pm to Stud Studdington
It's only up 218% over the last 12 months...
Posted on 2/25/25 at 2:21 pm to Stud Studdington
ETFs have made MSTR irrelevant.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 2:28 pm to Stud Studdington
Lol, Buffet is a horrible analogy.....He bought Apple way after it was doing extremely well. You sound like Saylor has hurt your feelings. Saylor just believes he's on to something. The stock is down because bitcoin is down. I'm curious why it bothers you? Was he a snake oil salesman in 2022 when bitcoin went down to 16K and MSTR fell through the floor? No one knows the future, but history shows it's a great time to buy 
.
.This post was edited on 2/25/25 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 2/25/25 at 3:19 pm to Stud Studdington
Ask again around May/June
Posted on 2/25/25 at 4:17 pm to Stud Studdington
I bought a share last Friday for $300. Thought I was getting a deal. Wish I waited…
Posted on 2/25/25 at 5:28 pm to Hitman67
It doesn’t bother him, he’s just trolling people who are losing money.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 6:04 pm to Stud Studdington
quote:You must have entered a position in MSTR after Nov. 1st, 2024.
Stud Studdington
Posted on 2/25/25 at 8:13 pm to Stud Studdington
quote:You can think he’s crazy but he’s not faking anything. Dude has all his money right where his mouth is.
If Michael Saylor actually believed that it was inevitable that Bitcoin is going to $13 Million he wouldn't be blabbing about it non stop, he would be quietly accumulating Bitcoin at lower prices.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 8:22 pm to beaverfever
Saylor been dumping on retail as fast as possible. His strategy worked beautifully, he has made hundreds of millions, even it unravels now.
Not his first rodeo
Not his first rodeo
Posted on 2/25/25 at 8:33 pm to UltimaParadox
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Saylor been dumping on retail as fast as possible. His strategy worked beautifully, he has made hundreds of millions, even it unravels now.
I warned people about his past.
People don't listen.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 8:52 pm to Stud Studdington
I’m willing to listen to your next bit of advice. What you got?
Posted on 2/25/25 at 9:06 pm to Hitman67
quote:
Lol, Buffet is a horrible analogy.....He bought Apple way after it was doing extremely well.
Warren Buffet/Berkshire made more money on Apple than any other stock in their history.
So other than that, yeah horrible example
This post was edited on 2/25/25 at 9:10 pm
Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:06 am to Stud Studdington
quote:
If Michael Saylor actually believed that it was inevitable that Bitcoin is going to $13 Million he wouldn't be blabbing about it non stop, he would be quietly accumulating Bitcoin at lower prices.
Some truth to this, but he needs people to give him the money to buy it, and 0% coupon convertible bonds don’t sell themselves.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:21 am to Stud Studdington
The point is he only bought it when it was a no brainer safe mainstream stock. It isn't like he was in on new technology or anything. So yes, it was a horrible analogy. If he lives another 10 years and then he buys Strategy, once it is more clear how well bitcoin does, then you can make the comparison.
It isn't like his shareholders are doing as well as an S&P 500 index fund these days. He doesn't even give a dividend to his shareholders. Sure, great investor back in the day, but time have changed. He was only holding on the last several years because his fund was about 50% in Apple. Lol, people should have just bought Apple.
It isn't like his shareholders are doing as well as an S&P 500 index fund these days. He doesn't even give a dividend to his shareholders. Sure, great investor back in the day, but time have changed. He was only holding on the last several years because his fund was about 50% in Apple. Lol, people should have just bought Apple.
This post was edited on 2/26/25 at 10:24 am
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:34 am to Stud Studdington
You warned them about all the dot.com businesses that lost a crap ton of money? I think that experience would be quite beneficial for him. What is life's best teacher? Lol, you might also enjoy that his major pitch back in the day was about Apple. He also made tons of money on Apple way before Buffett was in the stock He also was an early investor in Amazon, Google, and Paypal. So, he learned from life and then went on to make bets in some of the most successful companies ever to exist.
Warren Buffett just lost $4.5 billion because of this stock market decision
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Mallika Soni
Jun 14, 2024 07:52 AM IST
Warren Buffett sold nearly 13% of his overall Apple stock which accounted for 16 million shares in Q1 of 2024.
Have you warned people about Buffett's past?
He also was an early investor in Amazon, Google, and Paypal. So, he learned from life and then went on to make bets in some of the most successful companies ever to exist. Warren Buffett just lost $4.5 billion because of this stock market decision
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Mallika Soni
Jun 14, 2024 07:52 AM IST
Warren Buffett sold nearly 13% of his overall Apple stock which accounted for 16 million shares in Q1 of 2024.
Have you warned people about Buffett's past?
This post was edited on 2/26/25 at 10:48 am
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:43 am to Stud Studdington
quote:
Bitcoin is going to $13 Million
With 20MM bitcoin in existence now that would be a market cap of $260 trillion dollars....or just about 5.5x the total of the current GDPs of the US and China combined.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 11:25 am to Stud Studdington
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See in 2012 how Saylor was promoting Apple as a no brainer.....This at a time when Buffett would have thought it wasn't a good idea.
See in 2012 how Saylor was promoting Apple as a no brainer.....This at a time when Buffett would have thought it wasn't a good idea.
This post was edited on 2/26/25 at 11:27 am
Posted on 2/26/25 at 11:37 am to slackster
quote:
Some truth to this, but he needs people to give him the money to buy it, and 0% coupon convertible bonds don’t sell themselves.
Which is why I went with 2x ETFs on MSTR.
Calls pay very well!
Posted on 2/26/25 at 2:55 pm to Hitman67
quote:
Warren Buffett just lost $4.5 billion because of this stock market decision
By
Mallika Soni
Jun 14, 2024 07:52 AM IST
Warren Buffett sold nearly 13% of his overall Apple stock which accounted for 16 million shares in Q1 of 2024.
Have you warned people about Buffett's past?
Let me explain this to you like you're 5 years old.
Warren Buffett wasn't selling AAPL because he thought the price was going to drop.
He was selling AAPL because he made so much on his AAPL investment that it was overtaking his stock portfolio.
He knows that his investors want to invest in the conglomerate Berkshire Hathaway, not Apple Hathaway.
AAPL is still by far his #1 stock holding.
And you asking "Have you warned people about Buffett's past?" is most likely to dumbest question ever asked on this board.
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