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Posted on 2/19/19 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by Unlockthedream
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 2/19/19 at 12:56 pm to
Appreciate the info on MKT 701 with Kahn. It sounds like the switch in case study from group to individual project may be a one-time thing? I'm not sure it really matters. I groan when I see group work on a syllabus but in practice it hasn't been that bad.

I am currently scheduled for AP2 with A. Darrat (not to be confused with M. Darrat). There's not much here about A. Darrat. Does anyone have something to add about his class? It would be much appreciated. There are still some openings in Kahn's class for AP2 and I'm thinking about switching -- though I'm hoping to get a little more info before doing so.
Posted by 21sunny
MI
Member since Jul 2018
8 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 7:41 pm to
Yes, I will be finished AP1
Posted by baroqen
Member since Jun 2018
234 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 2:23 am to
quote:

So, did you feel like there were questions not covered as well? I know for sure there was at least one not in the text.


I feel like there might have been, but I'll admit to having had less time than usual to prepare last week.

That said, there were at least two questions that were covered but used entirely different terminology. She intentionally changes wording and/or phrasing to try to get you to "connect the dots". While sometimes this is understandable, at other times she's changing the wording of the actual official vocabulary/terminology while providing a definition.

Like giving the following definition:

A mental disorder where people feel the need to check things repeatedly, perform certain routines repeatedly (called "rituals"), or have certain thoughts repeatedly (called "obsessions").

This is a Wikipedia definition of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, but she wouldn't have that as an answer. Instead one of the answers would be something like, "Excessive Uncontrollable Disease" and you're expected to realize that's the answer she wants. I'm not a fan of this.

However, we need to also understand that it's a brand new class for her. These will all be brand new questions which haven't had the advantage of having been "tried out" previously. She's trying to challenge the students and make them think, although I don't particularly agree with all of her methods. MADM 701 has a LOT more possible vocabulary and course topics than MADM 760 which has increased the challenge to this method. I think she will need to adapt it as she goes.

I think her 2 question curve was fair enough, although I would have been happy with more, haha. I don't remember her ever curving in MADM 760, so she's trying to create a totally new class and challenge the students while still being fair. It's not always fair, but the "first class" will always be guinea pigs which could be good or bad. It was a nightmare for us in MKT 710 with Darrat when we were made to be guinea pigs. This one is sub-optimal but has probably worked out well for a number of people (Full points in week 3 and 8 extra points in week 4).

Posted by Armexc
Member since Feb 2019
4 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 11:09 am to
Hi I've taken Heller in MADM701 and now in ISDS705 with LIN. Very different styles between the two.

I am considering pairing MKT 701 with Khan with ECON 705 Fawaz. Does any know anything about Fawaz?

Can you post the book if you in the class?
Posted by LSUSmn2018
Member since Jul 2018
11 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 3:33 pm to
How are weekly tests in Yin Yuan's Acct 701 set up? Is there an assignment that you complete and then use to answer the test questions? Any additional information into this professor is sincerely appreciated!
Posted by LSUSmn2018
Member since Jul 2018
11 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 3:39 pm to
How is Yin's class set up each week? Are you allowed more than one try on quizzes? Are tests a reflection of an assignment that you complete or based off reading? Is there a fair amount of math/Excel involved or is it predominantly conceptual?
Posted by BEJ
Member since Jan 2019
6 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 7:49 pm to
quote:

How is Yin's class set up each week? Are you allowed more than one try on quizzes? Are tests a reflection of an assignment that you complete or based off reading? Is there a fair amount of math/Excel involved or is it predominantly conceptual?


quote:

How are weekly tests in Yin Yuan's Acct 701 set up? Is there an assignment that you complete and then use to answer the test questions? Any additional information into this professor is sincerely appreciated!


Each week covers from one to three chapters. Each week has one quiz and one assessment. You only get one try at a quiz. The tests reflect a combination of the reading, powerpoint lectures (~one hour), and practice exercises. There is a fair amount of math, they aren't complex equations but you'll have to understand the accounting concepts in order to solve them. Excel isn't technically required but if you're good at using it and building dynamic worksheets, you'll have a much easier time.

I would definitely recommend Yin's class, the structure is great, no busy work, and I'm learning a lot.
Posted by baroqen
Member since Jun 2018
234 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 9:18 pm to
quote:

I would definitely recommend Yin's class, the structure is great, no busy work, and I'm learning a lot.


How is the workload? I need to take my family on a trip over the kids' spring break. I'm planning to pair Choi's FIN 701 with Yin's ACCT 701 and I need to anticipate how many hours of work those two classes are. 3 chapters sounds like a lot of reading.

My trip will be in week 3 of the classes, so if anyone has insight on the week 3 workloads of those two professors, I would greatly appreciate it. It will be my final session, and after working so hard to maintain my 4.0, I would hate to jeapordize it in the final stretch.
Posted by LSUS grad student
Member since Feb 2019
2 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 9:44 pm to
Most for profit MBAs are not AACSB accredited...the for profits don't achieve this TOP accreditation, LSU and LSUS does. Some folks didn't have their Mommy and Daddy pay for them to go to school as a twenty something to hide flasks and party, Your education and/or moral compass has taught you to tell others to go to the library and read some books rather than get an MBA from LSU or LSUS online.....really? The peer groups in these online programs are full of experienced business leaders that offer others a wide base of knowledge. Because I've been to a brick and mortar school I'll say that there is noticably more experience to draw from in LSUS online vs. my classmates when I went to brick and mortar school, not saying either has smarter people but saying the real world experience from business leaders is greater online. Those that are in the classes are there because they want to be. I agree that most are there to advance their careers but not in lieu of performing at work, it's because they are high performers at work. Nice post flaskman
This post was edited on 2/24/19 at 9:53 pm
Posted by LSUS grad student
Member since Feb 2019
2 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 9:50 pm to
I called them - 100k plus for the MBA. Tough to generate an ROI on that unless you get there early in life... Agreed, it's one of the best
Posted by tigerlsus
Member since Jun 2018
26 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 11:02 pm to
I have found out that she is the same professor.

I have MADM701 in Spring AP2, can anyone let me know course load for Felice Williams and Nichole Phillips

Reviews are bad for both!!
Posted by baroqen
Member since Jun 2018
234 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 12:08 am to
quote:

Most for profit MBAs are not AACSB accredited...the for profits don't achieve this TOP accreditation, LSU and LSUS does. Some folks didn't have their Mommy and Daddy pay for them to go to school as a twenty something to hide flasks and party, Your education and/or moral compass has taught you to tell others to go to the library and read some books rather than get an MBA from LSU or LSUS online.....really? The peer groups in these online programs are full of experienced business leaders that offer others a wide base of knowledge. Because I've been to a brick and mortar school I'll say that there is noticably more experience to draw from in LSUS online vs. my classmates when I went to brick and mortar school, not saying either has smarter people but saying the real world experience from business leaders is greater online. Those that are in the classes are there because they want to be. I agree that most are there to advance their careers but not in lieu of performing at work, it's because they are high performers at work. Nice post flaskman


Well said. I'd like to add a few things both for and against your argument. I had several discussions with VP, SVP, and C-suite executives in Fortune 500 companies prior to going back for my MBA, so take this as you will. Personally, I'm going to trust their opinions.

The general consensus is that a highly experienced leader doesn't actually NEED an MBA later in their career. It doesn't hurt, but extensive experience trumps those 3 letters. Therefore when choosing between an affordable online or more expensive "brick and mortar" school... it just doesn't make any difference. Unless the MBA has the prestige of a top 10 to top 25 university, almost no one will care if its from a rank 26 or rank 2600 school. As long as it's AACSB, the ones that aren't at the very peak are pretty much the same.

On the other hand, the biggest value from an MBA is not from the education itself. I was told by several senior leaders that I will probably learn very little that I don't already know from my experience (this will be different for younger students that don't have substantial "real world" experience). The biggest value of an MBA is something that can only be attained from a brick and mortar school, and that is the meaningful personal connections and network. Essentially... the "education" isn't even the most important part.

I'm a Director-level manager in a Fortune 500 with almost 20 years of management level experience. I went back for my MBA for personal reasons, not so much because I "needed" it for my career (as I previously mentioned, it probably won't have much impact at this point). I chose an online program for the same reason many other business leaders do: We're very busy with work and family and thus need the flexibility that an online program provides. I chose LSUS because it's AACSB accredited, accelerated, and affordable.

That said, the majority of the classes are NOT very interactive and it's probably difficult to draw a lot of experience from the business leaders in them. I'm far more interactive on this board than almost any of my classes because of the way the classes are set up. That's definitely a fault.

Lastly, I would like to add that you should definitely "quote" any time you respond to a very old post.
Posted by BEJ
Member since Jan 2019
6 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:53 am to
quote:

How is the workload? I need to take my family on a trip over the kids' spring break. I'm planning to pair Choi's FIN 701 with Yin's ACCT 701 and I need to anticipate how many hours of work those two classes are. 3 chapters sounds like a lot of reading. My trip will be in week 3 of the classes, so if anyone has insight on the week 3 workloads of those two professors, I would greatly appreciate it. It will be my final session, and after working so hard to maintain my 4.0, I would hate to jeapordize it in the final stretch.


The work load seems pretty light to me. Not to say the class is easy, it's just structured efficiently without any busy work. I could see pairing this class, especially if you have previous accounting knowledge. Each week is from one to three chapters, it's not three chapters each week. Our week three was three chapters though.

Congrats on that 4.0. If I was riding into my last session with that I'd take the extra 7 weeks and not risk it. That is quite an accomplishment. If I had a 3.0 I probably wouldn't care and just get the degree done and pair the last two classes. Yin's weekly tests only have 9 questions, so each one is pressure packed. You can go from a 100 to a 70 in the blink of an eye.
Posted by CO_RTST
Colorado
Member since Feb 2019
3 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 11:45 am to
quote:

I am enrolled in MKT 701 with Khan and ISDS 730 with Loughrin for my first semester in the MBA program. Does anyone have a copy of an old syllabus they'd be willing to share? Advice is also welcome!


I'm consider taking the same pairing. Has anyone taken ISDS 730 with Loughrin who could provide some insight on the workload? Are his classes heavy with group work?
This post was edited on 2/25/19 at 11:46 am
Posted by Glinda
Member since Apr 2018
41 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 2:53 pm to
If Phillips’ course load for 701 is anything like 710, it’ll be somewhat heavy. I’ve posted about it so you can look at my post history to see what I mean.
Posted by SkipDigs
PA
Member since Aug 2016
65 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 4:20 pm to
Take a breath and relax, that post is almost 4-years old.

I went though the program and was not able gain anything from my more experienced classmates. Unless things have changed, there was virtually no interaction among classmates. Only 1 class had a group project.

I agree with the idea that networking is the most important thing one can take away from an MBA program.

I would have liked to see some kind of regularly held university facilitated chat/discussion session using zoom so students/alumni can meet and get to know one another, network, etc... For those of us located far from the school we would have an instant bond with others in our area solely based on location. But, hey its all online so it is what it is. I refused to spend 40k+ since I was paying out-of-pocket.

Posted by socal77
Southern California
Member since Jul 2016
505 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 9:37 pm to
quote:


Take a breath and relax, that post is almost 4-years old.

I went though the program and was not able gain anything from my more experienced classmates. Unless things have changed, there was virtually no interaction among classmates. Only 1 class had a group project.

I agree with the idea that networking is the most important thing one can take away from an MBA program.

I would have liked to see some kind of regularly held university facilitated chat/discussion session using zoom so students/alumni can meet and get to know one another, network, etc... For those of us located far from the school we would have an instant bond with others in our area solely based on location. But, hey its all online so it is what it is. I refused to spend 40k+ since I was paying out-of-pocket.


Great post, SkipDogs. I too would have appreciated more networking opportunities. But like you, I was paying out of pocket so wasn't willing to pay the $40k+ to go to a local brick and mortar school. LSUS is the very best online option in my opinion. $12,500 for an AACSB accredited MBA. And the LSU system is well-recognized nationwide.
Posted by codfam
Member since Feb 2019
6 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 2:24 pm to
My first post here. Just finished up ISDS705 with Gibbs. A very manageable course. His grading is very straightforward. There is lots of work but it's manageable in under 10 hrs/week. He's a very fair prof and very available if you need him. If you have excellent excel skills this class is easy. if not you may struggle.

And I agree on the above. This program is best value for sure. i'm a 25 year professional and did not see any value in paying top $$ for an MBA. This one is AASCB under $15k! Can't beat the ROI. Univ of Illinois has one for around $20k that I considered as well, but $5k is 5k.
This post was edited on 2/26/19 at 2:26 pm
Posted by neev2016
Member since Jun 2018
10 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 5:41 pm to
Please share syllabus for
ISDS 702: Quantitative Methods in Business
ISDS 710: Data Analytics

@ nirnaybansal(a.t.)g.m.a.i.l.com
Thanks in advance.
Posted by dhbuskirk
Member since Feb 2019
1 post
Posted on 2/27/19 at 10:49 am to
Does this program require anything special as far as laptops go? I read the technical requirements online, but I did not fully understand them. Thanks in advance!
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