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JPM down 6%, is it a good longterm buy?
Posted on 5/29/18 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 5/29/18 at 1:49 pm
Been wanting to get in on this stock, what's the boards feeling on this?
Posted on 5/29/18 at 2:51 pm to GREENHEAD22
Much of today’s foolishness seems to be because of “political uncertainty” in Italy... which is like talking about baby mama drama in the Kardashian household: something loud that happens periodically, but seldom leads to anything meaningful.
I like JPM as a long term play around these levels. It’s still the best managed of the majors, IMO.
I like JPM as a long term play around these levels. It’s still the best managed of the majors, IMO.
Posted on 5/29/18 at 2:54 pm to Jag_Warrior
Jag, chatter that MS has some italy debt.. I wonder if the other big banks do too?
Posted on 5/29/18 at 3:04 pm to b-rab2
I’m not sure about their overall exposure. I do remember that JPM established a decent size stake in Telecom Italia a couple of years ago.
Posted on 5/29/18 at 3:36 pm to Jag_Warrior
gross.. I have JPM calls..
Posted on 5/29/18 at 8:11 pm to b-rab2
So do I... July $110s
Today was immaterial IMO, but the market has gotten irrational plenty this year. JPM valuation is very fair and the backdrop seems ripe for most well-ran financials to continue to outperform.
The upside catalyst is regulation reform.
Today was immaterial IMO, but the market has gotten irrational plenty this year. JPM valuation is very fair and the backdrop seems ripe for most well-ran financials to continue to outperform.
The upside catalyst is regulation reform.
Posted on 5/30/18 at 4:02 am to LSUcam7
i understand wanting to buy the dips...
but JPM isn't an undervalued stock...nor does the income statements, cash flow or balance sheet indicate promising growth potential here.
for a momentum or technical plays...
the price does not lag earnings revisions..and the daily and weeking charts are currently making lower lows.
i see trend breaks on momentum daily/weekly/monthly..with no bottom establish yet.
so....why JPM now?
the biggest positive i see is the regularly beat earnings...so i would be comfortable holding longer term for income (however, even with drop...dividends are only yielding 2%)
is this just a cross fingers and hope play?
with the vix creeping up...and the fear selling on JPM...options prices are high
if you really must own JPM...why not simply sell naked puts to acquire(and keep selling to lower your avg price) while options are selling for a premium.
personally JPM would need to drop around mid 90s (or even better low 80s) to motivate me to jump into this
but JPM isn't an undervalued stock...nor does the income statements, cash flow or balance sheet indicate promising growth potential here.
for a momentum or technical plays...
the price does not lag earnings revisions..and the daily and weeking charts are currently making lower lows.
i see trend breaks on momentum daily/weekly/monthly..with no bottom establish yet.
so....why JPM now?
the biggest positive i see is the regularly beat earnings...so i would be comfortable holding longer term for income (however, even with drop...dividends are only yielding 2%)
is this just a cross fingers and hope play?
with the vix creeping up...and the fear selling on JPM...options prices are high
if you really must own JPM...why not simply sell naked puts to acquire(and keep selling to lower your avg price) while options are selling for a premium.
personally JPM would need to drop around mid 90s (or even better low 80s) to motivate me to jump into this
Posted on 5/30/18 at 3:08 pm to mrgreenpants
Speaking of reg reform...
CNBC- Volker Rule reform
Sounds like more to come..
CNBC- Volker Rule reform
quote:
"All of that is to say, I view this proposal as an important milestone in comprehensive Volcker rule reform, but not the completion of our work," the Fed's vice chairman for supervision, Randal K. Quarles
Sounds like more to come..
Posted on 6/6/18 at 7:27 pm to b-rab2
quote:
JPM calls..
I doubled down at 108 on my July $110s. Today was good, but let’s see if this run can sustain.
Posted on 6/7/18 at 7:25 am to LSUcam7
Still under, will wait for Expiration and see if I can squeak out a gain.
Posted on 6/7/18 at 4:13 pm to mrgreenpants
Mrgreenpants, how do you feel about JPM as a 10 - 15 year play?
Posted on 6/7/18 at 7:11 pm to tigerforever7
i believe chase is up at least 120% the past 5 years..and JPM is, arguably, the blue chip superbank of the blue chip superbanks.
the leadership/management is best in class...which is important, imo, if planning to hold for the long haul,
i think for a 10+ year play...you can't go really wrong with JPM(or any blue chip financial).
while i love JPM as a company...i'd just prefer entering at more advantageous price.(which may never come)
if i wanted banking for my portfolio...i personally prefer $BK or $FITB right now.
(for holding 1-2 quarters tops)
for warren buffet/option or income investing...
i'd skip banking and go with AT&T.
$T is an A+ value play right now....and it is paying close to 6% in dividends.
selling covered calls off a dividend champion like AT&T is practically a guaranteed 25% yield (this is assuming ZERO stock gains)
for the 'random walk'/cost averaging long term stuff.... yeah go for it now.
the P/L Ratio this moment is 3.1:1...which isnt bad
no reason to worry about getting perfect prices if planning holding years.
just my opinion
the leadership/management is best in class...which is important, imo, if planning to hold for the long haul,
i think for a 10+ year play...you can't go really wrong with JPM(or any blue chip financial).
while i love JPM as a company...i'd just prefer entering at more advantageous price.(which may never come)
if i wanted banking for my portfolio...i personally prefer $BK or $FITB right now.
(for holding 1-2 quarters tops)
for warren buffet/option or income investing...
i'd skip banking and go with AT&T.
$T is an A+ value play right now....and it is paying close to 6% in dividends.
selling covered calls off a dividend champion like AT&T is practically a guaranteed 25% yield (this is assuming ZERO stock gains)
for the 'random walk'/cost averaging long term stuff.... yeah go for it now.
the P/L Ratio this moment is 3.1:1...which isnt bad
no reason to worry about getting perfect prices if planning holding years.
just my opinion
Posted on 6/22/18 at 11:30 am to mrgreenpants
JPM was looking too pretty sitting there on triple+ support...
took a bull position.
took a bull position.
Posted on 6/22/18 at 11:57 am to mrgreenpants
I’m still long calls @ 110 with July 20 expiry.
Rough ride but I’m staying. The stress tests pass isn’t helping as much as I had hoped. Will give this a couple more weeks.
Rough ride but I’m staying. The stress tests pass isn’t helping as much as I had hoped. Will give this a couple more weeks.
Posted on 6/22/18 at 12:54 pm to GREENHEAD22
quote:Yes.
JPM down 6%, is it a good longterm buy?
We don't hold JPM currently. Positions in BA and Citi instead. JPM is a safe, quality play though. PE is lower than industry. 12m price target 121-125. Good long-term buy IMO.
Posted on 6/22/18 at 3:34 pm to NC_Tigah
Ugly close. I’ll give this another 10 trading days or so to fix itself or I’m out.
Posted on 6/22/18 at 5:01 pm to LSUcam7
[quote]LSUcam7[quote]
ETA: Realize now your comments are for options not the common stock. Never mind.
ETA: Realize now your comments are for options not the common stock. Never mind.
This post was edited on 6/22/18 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 6/28/18 at 4:28 pm to GREENHEAD22
After the market closed today JPM announced an almost 50% dividend increase to $.80/share/quarter on their common shares and a $20.7 billion stock buyback plan over the next year.
JPM shares jumped $2.00/share in after market trading initially and settled back to about +$1.75/share now.
JPM shares jumped $2.00/share in after market trading initially and settled back to about +$1.75/share now.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 4:45 pm to LSURussian
Saw that. Banks SHOULD rip from here.
1) Fed stress test cleared the big boys
2) Long term rates are climbing (modestly) which helps spread revenue
3) Favorable corporate actions through the dividend increases and buybacks
The catalysts are there...
1) Fed stress test cleared the big boys
2) Long term rates are climbing (modestly) which helps spread revenue
3) Favorable corporate actions through the dividend increases and buybacks
The catalysts are there...
This post was edited on 6/28/18 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 6/28/18 at 4:52 pm to LSUcam7
Yup WFC up almost double what JPM is after market as well
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