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re: Is it time to lock in some gains and move to cash ?

Posted on 7/26/23 at 6:36 pm to
Posted by Triple Bogey
19th Green
Member since May 2017
6188 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 6:36 pm to
First off, no way am I going to take a tax hit like that this year. Second of all, I don't want to frick up my cost averages on my positions, even if I planned on getting back in at some point in the future.

If its something you plan on being in short term anyways, then yeah, I'd say take a little risk off, but my long term core holdings aren't getting touched.
Posted by LeeVanCleef
Member since Jul 2023
88 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 8:32 pm to
Good

Shorted MSFT & Nasdaq yesterday before the close.

Shorted DOW Index today when it was up, caught the top(or bottom how ever you want to look at it).

Going to let them ride.
Still up on all of them.
Gambling that DOW will snap 13 game winning streak tomorrow.

Will probably put stops on them so I can't lose money (unless the market opens up huge tomorrow).
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5403 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 8:48 pm to
quote:

How are your shorts doing?



I will go on record. I did a Aug 18th 460/457 SPY put spread yesterday.

What that means. I get 100% return if SPY is below 457 on Aug 18th.
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3729 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 5:38 am to
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Will probably put stops on them so I can't lose money (unless the market opens up huge tomorrow).
Nasdaq looks like it's heating up due to Meta. Might feel a little pinch.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
75505 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 6:01 am to
quote:

try to outperform the market.


That's an ego trip, not a sound strategy.

Anyone who jumped into the market in 2008 did very, very well.
This post was edited on 7/27/23 at 6:37 am
Posted by LeeVanCleef
Member since Jul 2023
88 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 7:05 am to
quote:

Nasdaq looks like it's heating up due to Meta. Might feel a little pinch.


Still up on my MSFT and SDOW shorts.

Probably going to take a hit on my Nasdaq short.
Posted by LeeVanCleef
Member since Jul 2023
88 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 7:32 am to
quote:

That's an ego trip, not a sound strategy.


quote:

That's an ego trip, not a sound strategy.

Anyone who jumped into the market in 2008 did very, very well.



I like how you ignore the fact that in 2008/2009 crash that the market was rolled back 16 years.
People that just bought and held were no better off in 2009 than they were 16 years earlier.

In 2000 tech crash the nasdaq dropped 70 percent.

in 1982 the DOW was at the same level as 1964.

Holding, let alone going long, when the market is at all time highs usually offers high risk, with minimal reward.

Fortunes are made by having cash on hand and buying market crashes.
1987, 2000/2001, 2009, 2019.

I sold everything in Jan 2019 when covid was just starting, because the market was at all time highs and I knew that if Covid was declared a pandemic that the market would crash.

People thought I was nuts.

A few months later when the Dow was down 10,000 they didn't think so.

Got back in and made a killing.
That's how you make real money.



Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3729 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 7:49 am to
Yeah, me too. People wonder why I cycle in and out of bonds as the market goes up and down. It's so I have buying power when the market is doing poorly.
Posted by LeeVanCleef
Member since Jul 2023
88 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 7:52 am to
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Yeah, me too. People wonder why I cycle in and out of bonds as the market goes up and down. It's so I have buying power when the market is doing poorly.


exactly.

There is a difference between "timing the market" & having enough sense to lock in some big gains and have powder dry for better opportunities.

Warren Buffet and Berkshire have a cash hoard of over 100 billion dollars.

According to most on this board that means that Warren Buffet is an idiot for not being fully invested at all times.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
41211 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 9:23 am to
How are all your shorts doing today? I'm seeing a lot of green on the board.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
60718 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 9:32 am to
It’s not like they are going to tell you about losses. Market timers only talk about their wins
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3729 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 10:06 am to
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It’s not like they are going to tell you about losses. Market timers only talk about their wins
I don't time the market. I make trades at the end of each quarter based on how my index ETFs perform. They exceed expectations, I sell some and buy bonds. They fail to meet expectations, I sell bonds and buy stock ETF. No prediction required. It's quite freeing to not worry about whatever "news" story is being pushed at the moment regarding the Market.

I've averaged 23% over the past 7 years.
Posted by LeeVanCleef
Member since Jul 2023
88 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 10:11 am to
quote:

It’s not like they are going to tell you about losses. Market timers only talk about their wins


Warren Buffett has 130 billion in cash.
I guess he's just a moron market timer who should be fully invested at all times.

geesh.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
70219 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 10:34 am to
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My brother pulled mostly out and into gold bullion and cash after watching too much Fox News, and too much Alex Jones, right after Obama won his 2nd election.

It’s a topic we don’t discuss much.
Wednesday, November 7th, 2012
DJIA was at 13,245.52.
Gold: $1,689.95/oz.

Yesterday closes:
DJIA was at 35,520.12.
Gold: $1,962.20/oz.

Gainz (on a $100k investment, w/out fees)
DJIA $168k or average of $16k per year
Gold: $16k or average of $1.5k per year

Probably a good thing to not bring it up.

Posted by LeeVanCleef
Member since Jul 2023
88 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

Shorted MSFT & Nasdaq yesterday before the close.

Shorted DOW Index today when it was up, caught the top(or bottom how ever you want to look at it).

Going to let them ride.
Still up on all of them.
Gambling that DOW will snap 13 game winning streak tomorrow.



Man, I'm having a day !
I love it when a plan comes together,

3X Dow Jones short up big,
MSFD Microsoft short up big
Even my 3X Nasdaq short is now green and up nicely.

Muh, you can't time the market
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
12898 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 1:38 pm to
I'll be impressed when this is done on a fairly regular basis and you're posting your move well before they happen. Congrats on this hit.
Posted by LeeVanCleef
Member since Jul 2023
88 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 1:59 pm to
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I'll be impressed when this is done on a fairly regular basis and you're posting your move well before they happen. Congrats on this hit.


huh?

I posted yesterday that I shorted MSFT,DOW index, QQQ Index and was holding them.

Said I was betting that Dow would snap its winning streak today.

Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 2:13 pm to
You also deleted a post saying you shorted META after it suddenly jumped up in AH.
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
12898 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

You also deleted a post saying you shorted META after it suddenly jumped up in AH.


Seems on brand for this type of poster
Posted by LeeVanCleef
Member since Jul 2023
88 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 2:15 pm to
I never shorted meta, I never said that I shorted meta
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