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re: Is anyone following WorkHorse ( WKHS )?

Posted on 10/6/20 at 8:06 am to
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
18521 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 8:06 am to
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My concern is that WKHS just doesn't have the production capacity ready to go to meet the demands.

I'm sure they have a plan for scaling up to meet this contract. The bigger question is if, or more likely how much, the production costs will exceed the USPS contract price.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30277 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 8:36 am to
It's slowly become my biggest holder, through probably about 5 transactions, one of them at a very high amount that was impulsive and stupid. Luckily, only about 8% was bought at that amount. It balances out that most of my transactions were under $20 share.

I've really become hugely invested in this company (for me, percentage wise, you all would laugh at my amount invested but I'm a broke, middle aged guy learning while i invest.)

I'm watching this closely every day and trying to decide if there is a target amount at which I'd sell. Have any of you set a target amount? How do you go about deciding that? My mind tells me that is a point which it would be smart to sell %25 or so but I have zero clue when that should be. Any advice? Or are we thinking this may hit $50 or higher? Is $35 a good point to pull out a chunk? That's kind of what I'm targeting now. $35 and I'll sell some.

I screwed up on Sasol, it was previously my largest holder. I was in under $5 and it got above $10 and didn't sell, then fell to around $7 where it remained. I feel like that's 'lost money' even though I really still have an almost 50% profit, I don't feel good about it.
This post was edited on 10/6/20 at 8:49 am
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30595 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 9:00 am to
quote:

I'm watching this closely every day and trying to decide if there is a target amount at which I'd sell. Have any of you set a target amount? How do you go about deciding that? My mind tells me that is a point which it would be smart to sell %25 or so but I have zero clue when that should be. Any advice? Or are we thinking this may hit $50 or higher? Is $35 a good point to pull out a chunk? That's kind of what I'm targeting now. $35 and I'll sell some.


Everybody sells for different reasons. Some sell when they need the money, some sell when they think the stock will go down, some sell to buy other stocks, etc. We can’t tell you when to sell, but I’d say it’s a safe bet you’d get that $35 and probably $50 if WKHS gets a majority share of the USPS contract. The hype will probably drive it up, so you could either sell some there, or you just hold long term. If they get the contract then they’ll be on a long term upward trend bc they’ll have huge production and probably get even more contracfs
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30277 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 9:22 am to
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Upperdecker


Very informative and useful answer. Thank you. So I still have some thinking to do. I can definitely sit on this long term as the money invested is extra funds and I'm also building a six month cushion in savings but I'm not there yet, still pretty far away but I could see every stock I have and be in a decent spot for a few months.

I'm really starting this investment race late in life and have been pretty immature up until this point. Trying to catch up to being in a decent spot financially.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30595 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 9:54 am to
If it goes to $100 I’d sell some and look to buy in later. But $35-50 id hold based on the new value of the company with a contract that large
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 10/6/20 at 10:23 am to
If one stock starts to be the majority of an acct for me, I usually seek to diversify - especially when it doubled or tripled my initial purchase quickly.

I’ll take my initial buy out then let the rest ride.
Posted by Ballstein32
Member since May 2020
366 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 12:46 pm to
Freaking short sellers are at it again. This time by Fuzzy Panda (can anyone take something with a name like that seriously). How is this shite legal without posting evidence of it?

LINK

LINK /

The downloaded final report article on their website (second link) is pretty detailed and damning....what says all of yall?
This post was edited on 10/8/20 at 12:57 pm
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30595 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 1:35 pm to
Sounds really bad on face value. The USPS story hasn’t been posted anywhere. Interesting. We knew their production wasn’t on par, but Lordstown brings that capability. Negative margins are questionable
Posted by Ballstein32
Member since May 2020
366 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 1:39 pm to
I know! Thats why I question this attack. WKHS withstood the hindenburg twats this summer. Hoping this passes as well. My average cost basis is under $14 so I'm still gonna hold out atleast until the contract is awarded and ill go from there.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30595 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 1:55 pm to
I want to see how WKHS responds before I make a move
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4119 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 2:19 pm to
When is the USPS decision due to be announced?
Posted by AUHighPlainsDrifter
South Carolina
Member since Sep 2017
3108 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 2:42 pm to
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When is the USPS decision due to be announced?


I thought I'd read (on here) that it was supposed to be October 14th, but all I've seen is "by the end of the year".
This post was edited on 10/8/20 at 2:51 pm
Posted by Ballstein32
Member since May 2020
366 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 3:44 pm to
I did find an article from end of August this year that mentioned the safety issues of the prototypes, but doesn't mention which companies they were, but it was pretty much all of them.


"Part of the delays resulted from the low quality of the prototype vehicles companies submitted for testing and evaluation. The report said that vehicles delivered by four of the five suppliers “experienced critical safety failures during the prototype testing phase, including brake failures and leaking fuel tanks.”
LINK /


I did read somewhere, and I can't for the life of me find it, that the USPS had 90 days from the date the proposals were due, which was July 14th....which would be oct 12th (or 14th, i havent counted ot out myself) . Now, all I can find is that with Covid its gonna be sometime by the end of the calender year....


"“The Production RFP is not a contract award,” USPS said. “The evaluation process, from RFP release to contract award for the production program, requires thorough evaluation as well as negotiations. Due to the current COVID-19 pandemic and its impact on Postal Service and supplier operations, an award(s) is currently planned for the production phase by the end of the calendar year."

LINK /
This post was edited on 10/8/20 at 3:46 pm
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30277 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 4:17 pm to
Well shite, guess I'm not going to be rich after all.
Posted by Ballstein32
Member since May 2020
366 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 4:23 pm to
Lol, same. Don't sell quite yet though, its shrugged off short sellers before and hopefully won't be the last.

Like Upperdecker said, wait atleast until Workhorse responds to these accusations.

I'm fortunate enough to have some wiggle room before I start going into the red, so I'm holding strong for now. I still believe in this company.

I would like to hear from the OP of this thread on their thoughts about what's going on.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4119 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 5:46 pm to
quote:

Went ahead and spent big on 5 shares. Don’t let me down Money board. I got a cat to feed, can’t be playing games. ;)


This guy. This guy. I like this guy.
Posted by AncientTiger
Mississippi- Louisiana - Destin
Member since Sep 2016
1380 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 6:40 pm to
quote:

Well shite, guess I'm not going to be rich after all.


If you sell, true statement. My position since June has only increased, same as Cathie Wood of ARKQ ETF. In July, ARKQ opened their position with 300K shares, today ARKQ approaches 800K shares.

Oct 12th is 90 days from RFP, if not announced within 90 days of RFP, by EOY should be the latest.....GLTA.
Posted by Ballstein32
Member since May 2020
366 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 7:14 pm to
What do u make of all the insider selling? Top people in WKHS selling lots of shares

LINK


I'm not really sure of how that all works? Is that normal or is this quite a bit of selling? Lots in September
Posted by AncientTiger
Mississippi- Louisiana - Destin
Member since Sep 2016
1380 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 8:03 pm to
Insider trading is typically filed months if not years in advance. If a WKHS Insider filed with the SEC selling 50,000 shares 6 months in the future, no appearance of Insider Trading regardless of stock price.

The Regeneron CEO sold several million in shares shortly after the stock had a Covid run up. The SEC filings to sell these shares I believe were 2 years earlier & all monies went to a Trust.

Short sellers and media are the only people that scare the new investors with Insider Trading news.
Posted by 1234567k
Baton rouge
Member since Nov 2015
2067 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 8:17 pm to
Idk
But how do you get to this stage of the game if you are basically a sham company?
How could usps allow a company that is junk to make the final three?
Maybe the award is being delayed because usps has major concerns about Wkhs and is giving them time to get their act together???
This would explain the frantic hiring we heard about recently
I am very nervous
This does not look good
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