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If a friend comes up with a great business idea, but refuses to act

Posted on 11/28/20 at 10:02 am
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
2754 posts
Posted on 11/28/20 at 10:02 am
I’m a physician, and my scribe told me what I think is a really good business idea. I told her I would fund it and work with her on it... this was 18 months ago. I did some non financial research on this and kept her in the loop.

Since then she’s started medical school and now has no time to do it. And honestly for family reasons and med school/residency reasons, I know she never will.

Do I just go do it myself and just give her some percent stake in the company?
Posted by TigerCrude
Member since Oct 2019
1878 posts
Posted on 11/28/20 at 10:05 am to
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Do I just go do it myself and just give her some percent stake in the company?



Start the company. It’s yours. Any more in generosity.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 11/28/20 at 10:29 am to
18 months is plenty of time to act on a buisiness idea. IMO, it is yours to run with. If you cut her a check every year based on profits, I see no issues. Not that you have to, but I wouldn't be able to sleep at night if not.
Posted by Lickitty Split
Inside
Member since Apr 2017
3911 posts
Posted on 11/28/20 at 10:33 am to
I would be happy to fill in her spot and do the work necessary. I’ll take 1/3 position if you supply all the capital.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22277 posts
Posted on 11/28/20 at 10:35 am to
quote:

Do I just go do it myself and just give her some percent stake in the company?

Not a bad idea, but don't keep it to yourself. Give her the courtesy of at least agreeing to it. You can't make up her mind for her.
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
2754 posts
Posted on 11/28/20 at 10:40 am to
Thanks y’all. I tried to get her to start it with me during covid before her classes started. I’m definitely not going to write her out of it, but it is nice to know that technically I don’t owe her anything. But I still really want to include her for her own idea.
Posted by PillPusher
Gulf Coast
Member since Oct 2009
5707 posts
Posted on 11/28/20 at 10:43 am to
Just be prepared for whatever friendship you have to go south when the business starts printing money and she isn’t getting 50% of it.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89509 posts
Posted on 11/28/20 at 10:58 am to
quote:

Do I just go do it myself and just give her some percent stake in the company?


This is the right thing to do, either a stake in the business or a finder's fee.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
13623 posts
Posted on 11/28/20 at 11:38 am to
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This is the right thing to do, either a stake in the business or a finder's fee.


So, based on this logic the idea being hers means he should give her a stake in the business or a finder’s fee. Does that mean when the business is struggling he can ask her for a capital contribution? If the business goes under should he send her a bill for her % that he would have paid on the finder’s fee? I suspect she will not be happy.

Offer her a position/role, in writing. If she accepts, great. If she declines, as long as you don’t have an NDA with her then I would start it and move forward. Regardless of how good the idea is, there are still significant risks and work involved, which she’s been unwilling to participate in.

This post was edited on 11/28/20 at 11:59 am
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10560 posts
Posted on 11/28/20 at 12:15 pm to
I have the idea for electric helicopters. Tell Elon I expect royalties when it happens.

Thinking and doing are two separate things entirely.
Posted by leeman101
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2020
1501 posts
Posted on 11/28/20 at 12:38 pm to
If you are nervous have your lawyer come up with a release and pay her one dollar when she signs the release.
Posted by BigOrangeVols
Knoxville
Member since Jul 2015
3067 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 9:39 am to
Once you start it can you make another post of what the business is? I'm curious
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82017 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 9:44 am to
Just give her a heads up. You won't owe her anything. But he prepared to lose the friendship
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22504 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 9:57 am to
Maybe get someone who actually knows how to run a business to help you out, and allow them to be part owners.
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9796 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 10:03 am to
If it were me....

I'd tell her of your plans and see what she thinks.

She'll probably tell you to just go ahead without her.
Posted by dirtsandwich
AL
Member since May 2016
5147 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 11:38 am to
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it is nice to know that technically I don’t owe her anything.

I think by technically you mean legally. And a lot of people here seem certain of that fact. But I’d want to consider the law where you live and would need to know more about the discussions you’ve had with her and also the idea that she had before I gave a flat legal opinion to that affect. People here are probably right. But I can’t say for certain based on the limited facts that you’ve outlined.
Posted by Decisions
Member since Mar 2015
1474 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 12:51 pm to
Unless she’s taken out a patent, copyright, etc on the idea then I’d say you owe her nothing. As others said, is she going to share in the hard times as well as the good? If not then I wouldn’t be bothered.
Posted by BorrisMart
La
Member since Jul 2020
8812 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 2:44 pm to
Yeh the "right" thing to do (for both parties) is reach a conclusion before hand, in a binding document, that way no unforeseen problems arise down the road and you have no guilt.

Edit: But if you pitch the idea to her right, she'll likely think that it won't work out for you and be disinterested and agree for nothing.
This post was edited on 11/29/20 at 2:45 pm
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15789 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 5:39 am to
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I’m a physician, and my scribe told me what I think is a really good business idea. I told her I would fund it and work with her on it.


Need pics to make a business decision.

Seriously, you could use her image in ads IF that’s part of it.

Could also pay her as a occasional speaker IF that’s part of it.

Posted by djrunner
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
5318 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 9:53 am to
Dude if I gave you an idea in confidence and you took it and made money off of it, it might be really bad for you. If the legal channels didn't work, it would become personal. Everyone else is saying it's yours, it's not and you wouldn't be asking if you didn't believe that as well. Just remember, hogs get slaughtered. If you move forward with it, give her a healthy chunk because honestly she is the only reason you make a dollar if you do.
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