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re: How many times will folks on this board get burned by XOM?

Posted on 10/30/20 at 10:03 am to
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 10:03 am to
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welcome to 1980 in the oil industry....


1986.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 10:05 am to
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With OPEC+ members grumbling about keeping output cuts I don’t see any good news for oil prices on the horizon. If you own this stock it might be time to make some decisions about where it is going and are you staying along for the ride.




There’s a fair chance of an oil price bump in 2022 and then prices will settle in lower and the industry contraction will continue.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
7762 posts
Posted on 10/31/20 at 7:22 am to

We're likely to see a good bit of consolidation in the domestic oil industry over the next several years.

Picking solid M&A targets now - while the industry is in a cyclical downturn - could be one way to play the Energy sector right now.

I like Phillips 66 (PSX) and Helmerich & Payne (HP) ... they both have unique positions in the ecosystem, and they both have defensive strengths ... and that is usually good for shareholders.

I think there are some good bargains that could pay off a lot quicker (3-4 years) ... rather than waiting for the entire sector to recover (6-10 years)
This post was edited on 10/31/20 at 7:25 am
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28028 posts
Posted on 10/31/20 at 8:14 am to
You’re definitely going to see a supply imbalance in 2022 with current investment cuts unless another energy source or efficiencies make major strides.
Posted by Marcus Aurelius
LA
Member since Oct 2020
3900 posts
Posted on 10/31/20 at 7:41 pm to
Some might want to look elsewhere like TOT or CVX... if you want to be in that space.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/31/20 at 7:50 pm to
Doug







This post was edited on 10/31/20 at 7:52 pm
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20066 posts
Posted on 10/31/20 at 10:54 pm to
I mean is there some argument that they are going to cut the dividend? It is obvious at this point it is going to happen.

Hell they are about to write down 20-30 billion for just one sector in the thier business.
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6636 posts
Posted on 10/31/20 at 11:22 pm to
Sounds like they are assuming we wont have covid lockdowns again that completely wreck everything in 2021. If that is the case, dividend is sustainable and balance sheet will work out
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
23151 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 7:12 am to
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Sounds like they are assuming we wont have covid lockdowns again that completely wreck everything in 2021. If that is the case, dividend is sustainable and balance sheet will work out


The first of the covid vaccines are being released in London next week to those at high risk. It is the beginning of the end of the pandemic and the petty tyrants crushing our economies. I notice that that set shut down "non-essential businesses" but didn't shutdown non-essential government. What's up with that?

Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
39251 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 9:27 pm to
Damn I have Exxon that I inherited — my great uncle was an attorney for Esso back in the day and got lots and lots of stock as a benefit.

I don’t even watch it — it’s just there.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 11/2/20 at 2:34 pm to
Posted by 8thyearsenior
Centennial, CO
Member since Mar 2006
4280 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 2:48 pm to
Well from the interview above their plan to afford the dividend is hope. People serve life sentences based on hope but hope is not a plan. I'm curious to see how their "it cant get any worse" strategy serves them.

Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28028 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 3:13 pm to
That’s not what they said. They showed the margins history for the past decade and showed how each is at or well below the norm. They’re position is that their balance sheet is stronger than others and others will go bankrupt before Exxon does at the current margins. And although they have additional levers to turn, Exxon is working off a plan we are coming off those lows which is already showing in the data. So rather than change course, let the market play out without hurting the shareholders that count on the dividend. Day traders are not going to drive their decisions.
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