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re: Holding AMC Thread- Diamond hands unite

Posted on 2/27/21 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 2/27/21 at 3:43 pm to
Well, I bought a handful of these on Thursday at $8.26. If it get to $15, I’m selling. I don’t know if that’s diamond hands or loosely goosy but it’s what I’m doing.

Again, only a handful. I haven’t got into any of the GameStop/AMC shite until this little foray. If I lose $50, then I lose $50.
Posted by Sasquatch2020
Member since Oct 2020
519 posts
Posted on 2/27/21 at 4:03 pm to
I have been in since when all this started. It got to 17 one time

I am going to sell at 11 to break even and get out
Posted by Ice Cream Sammich
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
10111 posts
Posted on 2/27/21 at 4:58 pm to
I had 1000 shares at $9.08. Sold last week at $10.40.

I’m done.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11460 posts
Posted on 2/27/21 at 5:49 pm to
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I am going to sell at 11 to break even and get out
It got to $11 on Thursday, why didn't you get out then?
Posted by theOG
Member since Feb 2010
10508 posts
Posted on 2/27/21 at 6:02 pm to
I’m holding.

We rented an entire theater out last week for $100 so my two boys and a friend could watch the Lego Ninjago movie and I felt incredible pride of ownership as we enjoyed the movie in complete isolation.
This post was edited on 2/27/21 at 6:08 pm
Posted by Sasquatch2020
Member since Oct 2020
519 posts
Posted on 2/27/21 at 10:01 pm to
I lied it’s 12.10 average. I thought about selling and taking small loss but I’ll hold till it’s even or small profits.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11460 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 8:14 am to
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I lied it’s 12.10 average. I thought about selling and taking small loss but I’ll hold till it’s even or small profits.

That day may very well come this week. Maybe even tomorrow.

I think it's a mistake, because a ton of positive factors are in play right now. Worst case scenario, we are looking at near bottom prices, and that's on the cusp of theaters going back 100% and blockbusters being released. Throw in the Amazon buyout rumors that Forbes keeps hinting at, 387 institutional investors with large stakes being took in the last few weeks makes this an attractive stock as is. Now considering all that, remember that millions of call closed in the money of Friday. Those options will be exercised. Millions of shares have been shorted, and those shares have to be covered. If we see a modest spike tomorrow, FOMO will liking kick in and this stock will start going parabolic. We are talking double, maybe triple the price in days. Someone didn't throw over $8 million into AMC at seconds before the bell on Friday, thinking it was going to drop.

Speaking as someone who once held bitcoin a few years ago, and AUPH when it was in the low single digits, I know what regret feels like.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11460 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 8:30 am to
Worth a watch:

LINK
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15857 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 9:32 am to
What will the business of AMC be worth in 5 years?

What are the sales? Earnings? Dividend?

Are we just buying to sell to a “greater fool?”

I’ve not had experience in churning equities.
Good luck to everyone. I hope you time it perfectly. I guess there is some pleasure derived from being in the wave.

Please do not gamble money you cannot afford to lose.

BTW, I have had stocks that went to zero. Risk is ever present. I’m going to just watch the Reddit stocks. Maybe I’m missing out on the chance of a lifetime.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11460 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 9:45 am to
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What will the business of AMC be worth in 5 years?
Past performance is not always indicative of future performance, but considering the COVID circumstance, I would start looking at where is was in 2019. That's my baseline.

Now consider that China just broke all their previous ticket sales and only opened at 50% capacity, that should give a little insight on ticket sales here when the big blockbusters start rolling out again. AMC is the largest movie theater company in North America and Europe. At worst, this is a good recovery play. At best, a massive short squeeze happens.
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
9148 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 9:50 am to
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I’m going to just watch the Reddit stocks. 


I bought AMC last week as part of expanding my "reopening" stuff. It went up like 30% so I sold it, 30% is very good for my rookie investing arse.

I'm sitting this one out as well. I'm not much of a Yolo.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15857 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 10:53 am to
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AMC is the largest movie theater company in North America and Europe.


That is an investment case. I could see having a position in the biggest operator of theaters in USA long term.

I like reading about market share, earnings, sales, etc

I’m not sure how to value “diamond” hands.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11460 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 11:28 am to
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I’m not sure how to value “diamond” hands.

Actually it's pretty easy. If everyone that owns this stock holds and does not sell, the hedges that have shorted the stock and now have to buy to cover, are forced to pay market price. Several big hedges have this massively shorted. All it takes is the first one to start covering, and like dominos, the rest will fall. None of them wants to be the last, due to the fact that they would be paying exponential prices. Let's say, they buying starts tomorrow. Price starts going up, hedges start to cover to mitigate losses. FOMO kicks in, and average Joe retailer sees this on CNBC. He wants in on the action, so he buys 100 shares, price continues to go up now as retailers are buying, hedges are covering, and the sharks smell blood. Hedges not short start buying and have billions at their disposal and are keen on showing a nice return to their investors.

AMC is the most shorted stock on the NYSE. Watch the video link I posted earlier today for a great explanation of this strong possibility. Also look at what volkswagen did a few year back.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11460 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 11:55 am to
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That is an investment case. I could see having a position in the biggest operator of theaters in USA long term.
That's my #1 reason why I'm in AMC and not GME. Reduced risk due to valid business model. COVID has this stock very depressed, but we are starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel. Multiple vaccines are out, very restrictive States are starting to loosen their restrictions, and COVID numbers are in a free fall. Forget the short squeeze, this should be a $20 stock by early summer just on merits alone.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15857 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 12:44 pm to
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Actually it's pretty easy.


In 30+ years in the market, I’ve rarely found an easy way that lacks significant risk. I’ve heard “it’s different this time” more than once

At some point even “diamond” hands will sell. Markets are subject to reversion to the mean.
Good luck with the trade. At least get your capital out before the reversal comes.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11460 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 1:13 pm to
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n 30+ years in the market, I’ve rarely found an easy way that lacks significant risk. I’ve heard “it’s different this time” more than once

At some point even “diamond” hands will sell. Markets are subject to reversion to the mean.
Good luck with the trade. At least get your capital out before the reversal comes.


I 100% agree, I was simply describing the strategy behind "diamond hands". And of course, it will reverse, just like Gamestop and Volkswagen did, but do you think it will go below $8? GME opened at $39 on 1/21, rose steadily till it peaked on the 28th at $483. It closed Friday at $101. Imagine if brokers like Robinhood didn't restrict buying on the 29th! Completely killed the FOMO.

My point is, IF it does squeeze, and their is a good possibility, have an exit point, but IMO I don't see it going below it's current price in the long term. The current quarters numbers are going to be bad, but expected to beat estimate. Next quarter should be great assuming COVID numbers continue to decline and restrictions are lifted, which all indications point to.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11460 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 1:15 pm to
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n 30+ years in the market, I’ve rarely found an easy way that lacks significant risk


What significant risk do you see with this stock at the current price?
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15857 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 1:53 pm to
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What significant risk do you see with this stock at the current price?


I’m ok with it, but if it spike to the stratosphere there is no investment case for it.

I prefer boring stocks.

“Momentum” investing is not my wheelhouse.
I think people can succeed with any plan as long as they have time to follow the plan.

I work all day at the hospital, have a side gig, and I just don’t always have the screen open to trade the moment.

I’ve been wrong about some long term investments, but most of my lifetime returns have been in just a few blue chips where I’ve reinvested dividends for decades.
Markets go up, down, and sideways. I try to look for companies with easily described businesses like Apple, Hershey, etc. I would like to hold forever.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11460 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 3:45 pm to
quote:


I’m ok with it, but if it spike to the stratosphere there is no investment case for it.

I prefer boring stocks.

“Momentum” investing is not my wheelhouse.
I think people can succeed with any plan as long as they have time to follow the plan.

I work all day at the hospital, have a side gig, and I just don’t always have the screen open to trade the moment.

I’ve been wrong about some long term investments, but most of my lifetime returns have been in just a few blue chips where I’ve reinvested dividends for decades.
Markets go up, down, and sideways. I try to look for companies with easily described businesses like Apple, Hershey, etc. I would like to hold forever.
Understood.

As an investor of over 30 years, what's your thoughts on this:

LINK
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
42483 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 4:03 pm to
I think AMC is a great long term investment even if it tanks. I'm all in
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