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Gurus - Where is the market going?

Posted on 2/4/10 at 3:44 pm
Posted by LSUgolf04
Member since Aug 2009
349 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 3:44 pm
Where do you guys see the overall market heading over the next year or two (assuming our starting point is 10,000)? This ought to be interesting...

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133532 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 3:49 pm to
Up and down or down and up. (repeat as needed)
Posted by LSUgolf04
Member since Aug 2009
349 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 3:52 pm to
Thanks for clearing this mess up for me!
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37583 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 3:54 pm to
up





























eventually
Posted by Parliament
Member since Dec 2007
5787 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 4:12 pm to
This question would be better asked on the OT. Everybody over there makes $100+k and only nails 10's.
Posted by LSUgolf04
Member since Aug 2009
349 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 4:33 pm to
If I wanted to ask a bunch of 19 and 20 y/o college kids where the market was going, I would've consulted the OT.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 4:46 pm to
For a 2 year outlook, they'll probably be at least as accurate.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 4:54 pm to
Double dip baby.

I've been almost all cash since a little after the market broke 10k.
Posted by rollthatback
Member since Jun 2008
3061 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 4:57 pm to
quote:

I've been almost all cash


Don't feel like going short, eh?
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

Don't feel like going short, eh?



Not with my money at least.

I'm short RCII in my portfolio for school.
Posted by LSUgolf04
Member since Aug 2009
349 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 5:11 pm to
when you say going short, how short term do you mean?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133532 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 5:23 pm to
quote:

when you say going short, how short term do you mean?

Uh....that's not what he means. He means 'short' as in 'selling stocks short.' It's where you borrow a stock, sell it and then when its price goes down, you buy it back and replace it to whoever you borrowed it from making a profit on the difference between what you sold it for and bought it back for.

Or, it can mean you buy an ETF with a 'shorting' investment objective. Some short (bear) ETF's are leveraged which multiplies the shorting effect. When the market goes down, the price of the ETF goes up. And vice versa, of course.

Stick around here and we'll learn you good!!
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
10710 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 5:23 pm to
Might still have a lot of excess equity return from 1982-2007 to work off, I have a hard time believing 2010 will be a good year for equity or fixed income. Then again, I have been known to be wrong. I am down to 30% equity and out of collateralized commodities, and have a short on the S&P 500 in place to further reduce beta. Times are tough on the investment horizon.
Posted by Bayou Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
3701 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 6:38 pm to
Buy Buy Buy!!!




No clue here, but when XOM hits 60 I will buy some.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

Where do you guys see the overall market heading over the next year or two


Do you mean bonds, stocks, currencies, oil, ???
Posted by ANAKINSKY
colorado
Member since Jan 2005
6138 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 8:04 pm to
I just went all cash, but I'll likely have to take the hit tommorrow on iternational markets. According to Rush, things are looking bad for the EURO, I can stay on the sides for a while.
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 8:11 pm to
Low to mid 9s short-term (i.e. next month or so). Long-term ... you might as well pick a number out of a hat.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 9:27 pm to
I love David Rosenberg's analysis, but I think he's dead wrong about the bond market. Bond funds have been killing it on inflows compared to equity funds. If there's any market that's in a bubble, to me, its fixed income (doesn't mean equities might be over-reaching right now either).
Posted by STEALTH
Kansas
Member since Feb 2008
958 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 10:49 pm to
Not much support around 10,000 so we head south. How far is anyones guess? All cash is probably a good idea until we get some certainty. The GDP numbers were all inventory driven and we have a jobless recovery going on so Im scared sheetless about this economy. Throw Europe and 10 billion in loans poping back into the news and we might be on falling into a double dipper.

Cash is King...
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133532 posts
Posted on 2/5/10 at 7:32 am to
quote:

According to Rush, things are looking bad for the EURO,
I enjoy listening to Rush as much as anyone, but I don't think I'd put my money on the line based on what he says. The euro has been shaky for several months now so he's just jumping on the bandwagon like a neo-Saints fan.
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