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re: Going to withdraw my 401k

Posted on 4/9/13 at 9:16 am to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91842 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 9:16 am to
quote:

I'm willing to listen to reason if anyone feels like sharing it, though.


With all due respect, it sounds like you have no interest in "reason" whatsoever.

Leave the money in the 401k or roll it over into an IRA or Roth IRA. Those are your three options. Any and everything else is ignorant.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 9:17 am to
quote:

Message Posted by Vols&Shaft83 Where is the paranoia coming from? Alex Jones?


No.
The government printing money.
Interest rates held so low.
Real unemployment rates.
Government debt.
Class warfare.
The IMF.
Posted by LSUTigers00884
Lafayette
Member since Oct 2011
1168 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 9:17 am to
With all due respect, you're being an idiot right now. Stop watching the news.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65456 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 9:20 am to
quote:

uway


No offense, but you are batshit fricking nuts.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 9:24 am to
quote:

With all due respect, it sounds like you have no interest in "reason" whatsoever.

I am which is why I am asking questions and listening to answers.

quote:

Any and everything else is ignorant.

Everybody seems to be in agreement.


Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
70096 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 9:26 am to
I think we're being trolled, I hope so anyway.
Posted by OnTheBrink
TN
Member since Mar 2012
5428 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 9:27 am to
quote:

Going to withdraw my 401k


Without reading any of this thread, just the title, my response would be DO NOT DO IT!
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65456 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 9:27 am to
quote:

Everybody seems to be in agreement.


Yes we are. And I know the type of investor you are. You're going to pull it out anyway. And that's fine. It's your money. But while my IRA grows from $50,000 to $200,000 your cash will be safe buried in the back yard.

How many times has this country been fricked up over the last 200 years? And it's always keep chugging along.
Posted by Waffle House
NYC
Member since Aug 2008
3984 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 9:28 am to
October 19, 1987

Following the stock market crash, a group of 33 eminent economists from various nations met in Washington, D.C. in December 1987, and collectively predicted that “the next few years could be the most troubled since the 1930s”.

Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 9:28 am to
quote:

No offense, but you are batshit fricking nuts.


So "one in the hand worth two in the bush" doesn't apply AT ALL? Y'all are that confident that we are not headed for collapse?
Posted by Waffle House
NYC
Member since Aug 2008
3984 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 9:32 am to
quote:

So "one in the hand worth two in the bush" doesn't apply AT ALL?


It doesn't help that you are wanting to take massive penalties to invest in a depreciable asset on the assumption that things may, at some point in the future, "get bad".

At the end of the day it's your money, and if it helps you sleep at night, do it. It just isn't a position you will find support for on the Money Board.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65456 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 9:37 am to
quote:

So "one in the hand worth two in the bush" doesn't apply AT ALL? Y'all are that confident that we are not headed for collapse?


If we are gonna go let's go all in.

Things you need to do:

Sell your house and put the proceeds in ammo, gold, other commodity.

Build bunker

Buy guns

Sell car- won't need that depreciating asset

Quit job- Money is worthless anyway. Why work to acquire it. Start farming the land and raising cattle.

Want me to keep going?
Posted by jmtigers
1826.71 miles from USC
Member since Sep 2003
4992 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 9:38 am to
Consider refinancing the car to reduce expenses. Historically people dont consider this an option, but it can actually make sense today.

Or sell it.

Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 9:42 am to
quote:

It doesn't help that you are wanting to take massive penalties to invest in a depreciable asset

Eh. Money is a just a fungible means to an end, and paying off debt is a good thing for many reasons both quantifiable and not.

quote:

It just isn't a position you will find support for on the Money Board.

Certainly didn't expect to find support. A bit surprised at the confidence in the markets, though I would expect some level of hubris from people who make their living off of watching the market and giving investment advice.
Posted by Waffle House
NYC
Member since Aug 2008
3984 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 9:46 am to
quote:

and paying off debt is a good thing for many reasons both quantifiable and not.


As previously discussed, sell car, buy cheaper car. No debt and I bet you wouldn't take as big of a hit financially speaking as you would if you left your 401k alone.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65456 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 9:47 am to
quote:

though I would expect some level of hubris from people who make their living off of watching the market and giving investment advice.


You would assume that if we all thought we were headed for collapse, the majority of us would go find a different career.
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 9:47 am to
quote:

A bit surprised at the confidence in the markets


I think it's less about confidence in the market and more about confidence in the "system", which it doesn't seem that you have.

You don't have to be in the stock market. Lots of people have raised alternatives to stocks that don't involve handing over a chunk to the gov.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
70096 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 9:56 am to
You're surprised that most people don't think it's wise to take a guranteed 35% loss based on pure speculation. You're either an idiot, crazy, or trolling. Either way, frick this thread, I'm out.
Posted by Dead Mike
Cell Block 4
Member since Mar 2010
4065 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 10:10 am to
Where are you going to put the money once you withdraw it?
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 10:12 am to
quote:

Posted by Vols&Shaft83 You're surprised that most people don't think it's wise to take a guranteed 35% loss based on pure speculation. You're either an idiot, crazy, or trolling. Either way, frick this thread, I'm out.

You should listen to and learn from "The Education Song" by the Gourds.

And again, this isn't the entirety or even the biggest piece of my 401k.

Broke, changing careers is not always that easy. Do appreciate the level-headed responses. I will probably not withdraw from 401k.
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