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Posted on 6/20/12 at 1:22 pm to
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 1:22 pm to
The thing is, I think they can do well with this if they handle it correctly. Everything Sister B and her husband touch turns to gold and they all have worked together without consequence in the past. They have a good idea IMO, I just think lack of planning will cause it to fail and fail quickly.
Posted by CoolHand
Member since Dec 2011
2084 posts
Posted on 6/20/12 at 1:23 pm to
Other than the investor part, I think your plan is good. I would shy away from the partnership, though. One person should own the company with the others as employees. Otherwise, eventually no one will be on speaking terms.
Posted by reb13
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 1:26 pm to
The lease agreement should be in the LLC's name. Also what happens when they have no revenue or not enough revenue to cover the cost of the loan payment? How are they going to "count" hours?
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

Everything Sister B and her husband touch turns to gold


seems like they would have some start up cash then
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10050 posts
Posted on 6/20/12 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

Otherwise, eventually no one will be on speaking terms.


I'm seeing this as a real possibility. I know examples to where it has worked before, but the times it hasn't are more common. If Sister B can't be convinced, I am going to have my wife step away and just offer to help out.
Posted by 81Tiger
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 2:33 pm to
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in the baby boutique classification


There is a great demand for these!!
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10050 posts
Posted on 6/20/12 at 2:46 pm to
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There is a great demand for these!!


City where she wants to open, no... City where I would like to open, not a single one.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 5:22 pm to
quote:

LLC Partnership


does not compute. LLC's can be wholly owned or divied up in a partnership, but they are not a technical partnership.

Do not create the biz as a partnership, all kinds of red tape if someone wants to sell a portion, get out, or really do anything that the other partners do not wholly agree on.

Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 11:43 pm to
quote:

seems like they would have some start up cash then

Exactly. I would be extremely weary of this.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/21/12 at 9:14 am to
quote:


seems like they would have some start up cash then



why use personal cash for a start up partnership LLC when you can get a bank loan?
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 6/21/12 at 9:55 am to
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why use personal cash for a start up partnership LLC when you can get a bank loan?


bank is going to want collateral
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 6/21/12 at 11:52 am to
Who cares what city its in...Have you done any marketing by finding out about Census related info like how many live births there are in the area they want to open up? What kind of customer base they have?

Just because they opened up a vending machine business in the past or are successful with a few tax preparation services doesn't mean a baby boutique is gonna succeed.

Their luckiness in business isn't a guarantee of success. Without proper marketing research of your potential customer base you are making a blindfolded leap into a pool that you haven't been told is filled with water or not as of yet.
Posted by MandevilleLSUTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
6881 posts
Posted on 6/21/12 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

The lease agreement should be in the LLC's name.


And will probably require a personal guarantee.
Posted by slim thug
Member since Apr 2010
8004 posts
Posted on 6/21/12 at 1:23 pm to
this sounds like it is going to be a disaster.

OP, please keep us updated.
Posted by Im4datigers
Northern Virginia
Member since Oct 2003
4470 posts
Posted on 6/21/12 at 2:38 pm to
I'm in banking and have seen a LOT of dumb business plans destin to fail.

The scenario you present above has successfully blown every single one of these out the door.

If they are arguing and disagreeing on these items before the business even opens (or the LLC even filed), then this is going to get ugly really really fast.

Do your family a favor and tell them to ditch the whole idea and save themself a lot of money, headache's and heartburn.
Posted by Captain Want
Member since Nov 2009
2157 posts
Posted on 6/21/12 at 5:24 pm to
The only way this succeeds is if they have a film crew recording everything everyone does. That way, when it all goes up in flames, they have a solid reality show. Profit.
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/21/12 at 7:56 pm to
Ive seen enough! Where can i send my check for the initial investment?
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/21/12 at 8:51 pm to
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quote: LLC Partnership


Beyond comprehension. This doesn't exist.

You need to be wary because a partnership can be formed by a mutual agreement among individuals to make money.

An LLC will at least protect you from personal liability if you don't personally guarantee something.
Posted by bigblake
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/21/12 at 11:13 pm to
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Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 6/22/12 at 7:44 am to
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"who thought that that dumb idea would work?"


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