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re: Edward Jones vs Northwestern Mutual vs Fidelity

Posted on 1/26/23 at 9:39 pm to
Posted by BayouBengalRubicon
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2019
534 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 9:39 pm to
NW Mutual's only objective is to sell you whole life insurance. Whole life insurance is a scam.
Posted by ArkBengal
Benton, AR
Member since Aug 2004
2187 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 9:46 pm to
Yes they certainly did. Think I made that number up from thin air ?
They sure didn’t mention a “transfer” to us either. This was about 4 years ago so maybe competition forced them to change, but I will never cross their doorstep again.
This post was edited on 1/26/23 at 9:50 pm
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 10:14 pm to
EJ uses business model of getting retail customer’s family and friends and taking a chunk of their value from them in form of fees, preying on their financial illiteracy.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 6:35 am to
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EJ uses business model of getting retail customer’s family and friends and taking a chunk of their value from them in form of fees, preying on their financial illiteracy.


What’s the Morgan Stanley, LPL, Raymond James, UBS, etc model?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41011 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 7:09 am to
I think they represent different parts of the marketplace.

EJ has a lot of lower wealth people who probably could do it themselves, but they want professional help. The individual fees are low but they are many of them that tend to add up over time. They nickel and dime you a lot. I consider EJ the H&R Block of investment firms.

Fidelity has a lot of do it yourself people, but also has a decent network of advisors (both in house and a lot of third party advisors use their platform).

NM is a life insurance company who also has an investment arm that sells a lot of propritary funds.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
90278 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 7:43 am to
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preying on their financial illiteracy.


that was me.

My only experience with EJ was chronicled here on the board 10 years ago ha, when I was a young person and just dipping a toe in the water of investing I was contributing some extra money each money into a Roth IRA with EJ. After 2 yeras, the account only had $11 more in it than the day I started. It was so long ago that I don't recall exactly why it had basically zero gain but that was enough for me to know that somethihg wasn't right. I took it all out and put it Vanguard and have never looked back.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4932 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:57 am to
VANGUARD,Blackrock and State Street substantially support the World Economic Forum.
These funds are also behind the “social credit” and ESG left wing movements among corporate America to force businesses into left wing economic and cultural compliance.

I’m hoping Schwab and Fidelity aren’t into this also,I’m going to do some digging to try and find out.I have my IRA’s ,investments between these 2.

As far as Edward Jones,they are trash.
My uncle died and left his widow substantial assets with Edward Jones. Her mind started going,her son from prior marriage got POA and looked into her account.He found the “advisor” was churning her account and had her into all kinds of stocks an 86 y.o . woman had no business being invested in
Posted by TxRan2020
Texas
Member since May 2020
721 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:09 pm to
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VANGUARD,Blackrock and State Street substantially support the World Economic Forum.


I’m suspecting Edward Jones is starting the same thing…anybody know? My advisor is really pushing me hard to make some changes to my account for some reason.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25893 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:18 pm to
I always enjoy these threads.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
21656 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:32 pm to
Fidelity also has a solid private wealth management group for all of the OT ballers.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
24606 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:47 pm to
Grow your money on your own.
Click "buy" on VTI.

You might need to manage your money (now a few million dollars) 30-50 years later with the help of a professional.
Posted by Retrograde
TX
Member since Jul 2014
2914 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:57 pm to
I personally use vanguard, and I need to switch. The mobile trading and especially options trading has horrendous UI.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:16 pm to
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I’m suspecting Edward Jones is starting the same thing…anybody know? My advisor is really pushing me hard to make some changes to my account for some reason.


Why don’t you ask him why he thinks you should make the changes?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

My only experience with EJ was chronicled here on the board 10 years ago ha, when I was a young person and just dipping a toe in the water of investing I was contributing some extra money each money into a Roth IRA with EJ. After 2 yeras, the account only had $11 more in it than the day I started. It was so long ago that I don't recall exactly why it had basically zero gain but that was enough for me to know that somethihg wasn't right. I took it all out and put it Vanguard and have never looked back.




Insert firm name here sucks because I made $11 over 2 years is the most useless criticism in this thread.

If you put $5000 into VTI through Fidelity 1 year ago and 2 years ago, you’d be down $63. Do Fidelity and Vanguard both suck now?
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4933 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:39 pm to
This Sub used to be pretty good when we had DocFenton and LSURussian and some of the others on here.

I’m starting to feel like there’s a bunch of teens out here ranting now.
Posted by ShaqTIGAH
Houston
Member since Dec 2009
559 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 3:19 pm to
Interesting thoughts.

Like OP, I'm also interesting in opening a brokerage account, but I'm also looking for advice/guidance in the meantime. I have a 401(k) from an old employer that I'd like to start with, and eventually open a brokerage account in a few months.

Have been meeting with someone from NW, who has encouraged me to go with one of their products for the 401(k) rollover. I'll look at that information soon, but I've also heard Charles Schwab is great if you want to do it on your own. I'll also check out Fidelity as it seems to receive good reviews in this thread.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25893 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 3:23 pm to
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one of their products



Posted by TxRan2020
Texas
Member since May 2020
721 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 3:43 pm to
He said it was so he could be more flexible about trading my stocks. Then a few days later I heard about this ESG stuff & it made me wonder. And full disclosure, I’ll admit up from, I am NOT a smart person so my understanding of things is not great.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 6:00 pm to
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And full disclosure, I’ll admit up from, I am NOT a smart person so my understanding of things is not great.


Kudos to being honest.


quote:

He said it was so he could be more flexible about trading my stocks.


Ask about what the changes will cost up from and/or over time and have him explain it to you. If you don’t get the warm and fuzzies, keep asking questions until you feel confident in your decision.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4932 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 1:55 pm to
I’m not that terribly smart either when it comes to investing.Best thing for most people is to get an account with Schwab or Fidelity and put your money in index funds.
Mutual funds are graded against the S&P 500 index.These are managed by guys with lots of financial education and information that few are privy to and in any given year only about 20% beat the S&P 500.Thing is,it’s not usually the same 20 % each year.
No less than Warren Buffett recommends index funds for the average investor.

Keep investing consistently to dollar cost average and don’t panic when the market takes a dump.2008-2009 bunch of co-workers cashed in their 401-k’s,took the loss and had to pay penalties to the IRS.I kept my contribution going with no change and it paid off well for me.

I’ve dabbled with individual stocks over the years.I did well with some but made a lot of mistakes like not buying enough of stocks that did well,holding on to duds too long,selling some winners to soon.

I have often contemplated trying option investing but it’s complicated with my pea-brain.
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