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re: Dont let today's fools gold fool you.

Posted on 10/11/11 at 8:12 am to
Posted by Baylor
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 10/11/11 at 8:12 am to
LINK

found a good read in usatoday talking about the trading range we have been dealing with in this thread.
this has nothing to do with my buddy, I found this on my own.

I still have not talked to him in several weeks.

I just feel like there is really nothing worth talking to him about until we break this current trading range.

he can't be anymore clear then he has been.
he expects us to trade down to the next range to around 1015 to 990 or so.

something I would highly suggest if you want to make a short-term trade is to buy a few inverse ETFs based on the s&p any time the market trades up to near the resistance level of 1220ish.
because if my friend is correct in his prediction(and he has been 100% with everything he has told me the last 5 years) it must retrace down again to the support level.

that's a 10% gain, and if you use a leveraged ETF with margin you are talking about serious money.

this is what the smart people do.

I will most certainly talk to him again maybe even today to get a completely updated view from him since its been a few weeks
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91078 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 5:01 pm to
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this is what the smart people do.


Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91078 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 5:02 pm to
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Just a bunch of whining bullshite and e-dick measuring on all sides.


Posted by djmicrobe
Planet Earth
Member since Jan 2007
4970 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 10:46 pm to
Ho much will Slovakia's EFSF vote affect the trading range? If vote is yes, how high will range go? If vote is no, how low will range drop?

There is no investing when environment is so uncertain. It is merely speculation.
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7729 posts
Posted on 10/12/11 at 11:39 am to
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if you want to make a short-term trade is to buy a few inverse ETFs based on the s&p any time the market trades up to near the resistance level of 1220ish.
because if my friend is correct in his prediction(and he has been 100% with everything he has told me the last 5 years) it must retrace down again to the support level.

Trading at ~1212 ...
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
178908 posts
Posted on 10/12/11 at 11:40 am to
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Trading at ~1212 ...


He clarified his 1% error margin after it hit 1230.
Posted by Baylor
Member since May 2009
583 posts
Posted on 10/12/11 at 2:10 pm to
Just to let everyone know I just purchased a proshares 2x inverse s&p ETF at 1219.
I plan on riding it down to at least 1120.
This is only the 2nd time since may that I have made a short term trade while waiting for the bottom.
We hit 1220 yet again at the top of the range.
As you can see for the 4th time in a row it's falling flat as soon as it hits this strong resistance.
One of these days it's going to trade through this 1100ish to 1220ish trading range.
When it does, you can expect a tremendous rally if it closes above 1220ish for more then 1 trading day or a huge freefall down to our 1015 to 990ish level if it closes below 1100 for more then one consecutive trading day.
You already know which one of those two scenarios my buddy thinks the market is going to take.
This post was edited on 10/12/11 at 5:47 pm
Posted by Baylor
Member since May 2009
583 posts
Posted on 10/12/11 at 3:05 pm to
Ho much will Slovakia's EFSF vote affect the trading range? If vote is yes, how high will range go? If vote is no, how low will range drop?

There is no investing when environment is so uncertain. It is merely speculation.


He does not trade on news like this
only on tech and inside trading
Posted by AuburnTiger08
Georgia
Member since Nov 2010
280 posts
Posted on 10/12/11 at 3:18 pm to
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only on tech and inside trading


SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC!
Posted by Baylor
Member since May 2009
583 posts
Posted on 10/12/11 at 3:24 pm to
Its all open info for anyone to see
Not the kind of inside info you are thinking of
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28247 posts
Posted on 10/12/11 at 3:27 pm to
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inside trading


Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 10/12/11 at 4:08 pm to
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SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC!





I did this during the LSU/UF game at a bar in Houston just to piss off the UT people. Decisions, they become poor when drunk.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 10/12/11 at 10:14 pm to
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found a good read in usatoday

quote:

this is what the smart people do.


Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134871 posts
Posted on 10/13/11 at 8:11 am to
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We hit 1220 yet again at the top of the range.
So you were wrong again about not hitting 1,220 again?
This post was edited on 10/13/11 at 8:12 am
Posted by John Merlyn
Member since Oct 2009
2203 posts
Posted on 10/13/11 at 9:39 am to
Baylor mentioned that it isn't investing but speculating to trade this market. Hey bud, trading always = speculation.
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91078 posts
Posted on 10/13/11 at 12:05 pm to
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So you were wrong again about not hitting 1,220 again?


:beatdeadhorse:
Posted by Baylor
Member since May 2009
583 posts
Posted on 10/13/11 at 12:44 pm to
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So you were wrong again about not hitting 1,220 again?


ummmm
Sometimes I feel like I repeat the same thing over and over again

Just when I get the feeling that I have said the same thing for one time too many.

I get a comment like this that conferms to me that there is no such thing as saying something too many times.

All I can tell you dude is read read from pages seventeen to now.

Posted by Baylor
Member since May 2009
583 posts
Posted on 10/13/11 at 12:47 pm to
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Yes that sums up what my buddy has been saying. We hit the eleven hundred mark today. No if's and or buts about it. but important to note. We have not tested it yet. What I mean is we are still well within the 1100 to 1220ish trading range. It would not surprise my friend if it test the 1220ish levels yet again. That is not a prediction. Its just a statement on the fact that all thats happened is we hit the low end of the 1100 to 1220ish trading range that we have talked on for months. Just like it rallying to 1220 did not mean my friend was wrong. In the same light dropping slightly under 1100 does not make it right yet. All we have done so far is define the 1100 to 1220ish trading range. 1100 is still the support level. Until 1100 switches places and becomes the resistance level we are still trading in the same 1100 to 1220ish trading range.




yet again
said that when it was 1096
This post was edited on 10/13/11 at 12:49 pm
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 10/13/11 at 12:51 pm to
Whenever you put qualifiers like "it would not surprise me" in front of a statement, you have almost a 100% chance of being right. The only way you could have been wrong on that statement would been if the market blew through 1220 and didn't look back until 1350 by your standards.

Watch: It wouldn't surprise me if the markets open 2% up tomorrow morning.
Posted by Baylor
Member since May 2009
583 posts
Posted on 10/13/11 at 12:59 pm to
Mr Flask.
There are many ways I can get the prediction wrong.
YOu mentioned one of them.

I will repost my post on page seventeen again for the 4th time to show you the other way I can get it wrong.

quote:

Until it goes under 1100 for a few days or goes higher then 1220ish for more then a few days we have not seen anything significant. Although we could once again test the resistance level of 1220ish again make no mistake my friend agrees without question that we WILL go under 1100 and stay under 1100 for a good period of time.
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