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re: Does anyone here know anything about unemployment for the self employed?

Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:15 pm to
Posted by BACONisMEATcandy
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:15 pm to
This is the landing page for Cares from the Dept. of Treasury

LINK

Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
20162 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

Everyone qualifies including 1099 self-employed who typically do not pay into unemployment.


Is it possible that this varies by state?

My father worked for a small business that had not paid in to unemployment and was denied unemployment pay because of it.

I don't know much more detail other than that. Maybe there was extenuating circumstances.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:27 pm to
Damn almost $800 a week and you can work all week making cash somewhere else. shite I could make $2000 a week unemployed
Posted by Hankg
Member since Feb 2011
637 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:52 pm to
Just to make sure I was clear about our experience. My wife has beauty shop, sole proprietorship, no employees. She called LA workforce last Thursday. Waited on hold for one hour. Talked to representative and he said he thought self employed people like her would be covered but “program” wasn’t in place yet. Advised her to file for unemployment anyway. He took all of her info and filled application for her. Friday she gets automated email saying she qualifies for zero. Reason was no work history last two years. My thinking is yes there is no work history because unemployment taxes have not been paid for her and her employment record isn’t in LAWorks system. He told her before they hung up to keep checking LAWorks website for update that they will post when program for self employed people is finalized. Just waiting but just feel in limbo.
I would think that they would put something out saying they are at least working on getting a system in place for these types of claims. Lots of people in same boat. I’m sure they are getting lots of calls about this.
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 3:59 pm
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

Is it possible that this varies by state?



no. see link i posted on first page. This bill covers whole nation. It is NOT a state plan. This is FEDERAL.

quote:

My father worked for a small business that had not paid in to unemployment and was denied unemployment pay because of it.



yeah, sure. Normally that is correct. This is a whole new ball of wax. That is why it is called:

quote:

Pandemic Unemployment Assistance, that extends benefits to gig workers, contractors and others who wouldn't otherwise qualify for unemployment compensation
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:31 am to
from what trump said last night this fed money should be getting to states friday. SO check back with LA works maybe monday and see if they are implementing the new program.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
20162 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:35 am to
quote:

no. see link i posted on first page. This bill covers whole nation. It is NOT a state plan. This is FEDERAL.


I wasn't talking about the new program passed, just unemployment in general.

Obviously if the new program covers those who haven't paid in, then it will take a while to get implemented. Initial denial would be from not paying in if I had to guess since the system is not up.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:41 am to
What if 1099 is still working but hours are cut in half?
Posted by Hankg
Member since Feb 2011
637 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 10:13 am to
Update... I emailed LAWORKS asking about my wife’s eligibility as self employed and got this response

“You should file a claim just like we're suggesting everyone to do - even if it says you're "monetarily ineligible" - keep filing every week. When the federal programs are implemented, everyone will qualify.”

Looks like it’s coming but programs aren’t in place yet.

Posted by JoePepitone
Waffle House #1494
Member since Feb 2014
11445 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 2:06 pm to
How secure is the LAWorks website? I have to believe with a rushed rollout of a modified system there will be ample opportunities for identity thieves.
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
8448 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 3:59 pm to
Thank for the update. A tremendous help.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 4/2/20 at 8:49 pm to
rumor i just got is the pandemic UI will hit next week sometime. TIFWIW. I just applied for the EIDL loan.
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
8448 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 7:27 am to
thanks, i applied for the eidl loan yesterday as well
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 4/3/20 at 10:31 am to
quote:

thanks, i applied for the eidl loan yesterday as well




good deal. let us know if you get it or what they tell you.
Posted by Neil Caffrey
NOLA
Member since Dec 2013
144 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 8:20 am to
My wife has an LLC operating as an SCorp and she’s the only employee in her business. She’s only been in business for 2 years. In both years the business has operated at a net loss and thus she has not had to do payroll.

Does anyone know if she would qualify for the EIDL grant, the PPP loan, or unemployment?

Having a hard time finding out what she would qualify for based on her unique situation.

TIA
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10463 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 3:23 am to
It’s not just Louisiana. Unemployment for the self employed is on hold everywhere.
Posted by southside
SW of Monroe
Member since Aug 2018
647 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 6:37 am to
LINK

Article about how the SBA is really dropping the ball, nationwide.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
25135 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 7:53 am to
quote:

Unemployment for the self employed is on hold everywhere.


Seems to me since self employed get screwed having to pay double SS/FICA taxes and get hammered on health insurance if they don't have a spouse with employer insurance, they should definitely be getting assistance at a time like this.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 3:27 pm to
Self employed always get fricked. No surprise here
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 4/7/20 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

Unemployment for the self employed is on hold everywhere.




program was supposed to start this week. Delayed more?

here is my shocked face



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