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re: Diving deeper on Standard Lithium?

Posted on 11/24/20 at 9:42 am to
Posted by FMtTXtiger
Member since Oct 2018
3731 posts
Posted on 11/24/20 at 9:42 am to
I've been gun-shy above 2.00.
Posted by ReadyPlayer1
Clown World
Member since Oct 2020
1062 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 5:18 am to
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They’ve already announced to employees that it will be at central plant and west plant already. Mega site prepped and ready to move in modules. Central site is demo plant location at Lanxess main site. Tetra also shut down right down road. Railway connection. Brines wells already in place. Lanxess has rights to their leases.


Went reread the tread and completely missed this post. Have to let us know when they actually start building. As long as everything works like they said and with Lanxess I could see this being a 70+ $ stock in 10 years. Maybe sooner but I'm bullish if it all works. Government's pushing more ev regulations and just from what I read their will be a Lithium shortage by 2025. ? If they start with expansion I will be going in a lot more because I am thinking about 20 years down the road before I plan on my earliest retirement.
Posted by Drunken Crawfish
Member since Apr 2017
3823 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 9:35 am to
Looks like a buying opportunity this morning.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11096 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 9:51 am to
Is anybody concerned about an over supply problem in this space? Everybody knows about and wants a piece of the lithium play.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19475 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 9:55 am to
Down below $2 now. SL's patented process is by all indications cheaper, faster and cleaner than its competitors.
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
1990 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 9:56 am to
I won't be able to provide a link but I'd read that starting in 24 we're going to face supply shortages and that's where SL's faster recovery tech will separate it from it's peers.
Posted by Drunken Crawfish
Member since Apr 2017
3823 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 9:59 am to
Posted by CorkRockingham
Member since Jun 2017
502 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 10:26 am to
Bought in high at $2.20 at 800 shares

Read a little more into it and just pulled the trigger on another 1500 shares at $1.90.

When would y’all expect business to pick up and for them to scale up operation?
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19475 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:02 am to
I think they are still waiting for their shipment to Canada to get through the border lock-downs.
Posted by stewie
Member since Jan 2006
3951 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:11 am to
Purchased some more this morning ... buying the dips
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3131 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 12:16 pm to
Just bought some at $1.92.

Looking at industry multipliers and their projected Lanxess plant revenue, I’ve got a near term price target of $4-5.

Target would be higher but that Tetra exploration deal has me a bit worried. That is reliant on getting waste brine from oil manufacturers in the area. Those guys are in a heap of trouble and if they don’t survive, they obviously stop manufacturing the waste streams that would be used as supply streams in SL’s process.
Posted by 1234567k
Baton rouge
Member since Nov 2015
2067 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 6:46 pm to
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That is reliant on getting waste brine from oil manufacturers in the area.


I think this is not accurate.
The waste steams are from bromine plants not oil producers.
The oil industry was responsible for finding the brine deposits.
The demise of the oil industry is not a threat to this plant.
Posted by 1234567k
Baton rouge
Member since Nov 2015
2067 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 6:51 pm to
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Target would be higher but that Tetra exploration deal has me a bit worried.


This does give me some concern as well . But not much.
Tesla is buying lithium deposits because tesla is worried they will not have enough lithium.
This post was edited on 12/1/20 at 7:16 pm
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27331 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 6:52 pm to
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Have to let us know when they actually start building. As long as everything works like they said and with Lanxess I

They have been readying the west plant. Original plan was just the central plant. They are doing work at old Tetra site. The brine wells are in place already. They should be able to produce 70,000 tons in short time. I have a feeling next announcement will be the successful conversion to lithium hydroxate and the operations at the 3 sites. Since they decreased the process from 72 hours to around 6 hours, they can ramp up production as needed. The units are self contained and operate 24/7. There is no real construction needed aside from building more modules, that may or may not be going on at the moment. They can produce a nice profit at current prices. No need to flood the market and deplete the resource until prices and demand goes up.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27331 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 6:56 pm to
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That is reliant on getting waste brine from oil manufacturers in the area.



quote:

I think this is not accurate.
The waste steams are from bromine plants not oil producers.
The oil industry was responsible for finding the brine deposits.
The demise of the oil industry is not a threat to this plant.



Correct. No one is shutting off anything. Lanxess has the rights to over 3 million tons in their leases and 800k more at Tetra. That's with the current brine wells. STLHF is just filtering out the tailbrine once Lanxess is done with it before reinjecting.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27331 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 7:05 pm to
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Tesla is buying lithium deposits because they are worried about not having enough lithium.



Why? Lithium demands are expected to rapidly grow to well over 1 million tons/year. It takes about 18 months to extract using current techniques and is costs and labor intensive. That means more expensive and horrible for environment. STLHF and Lanxess have zero environmental impact, if anything the water is cleaner before reinjection. That's assuming that other elements such as sodium, magnesium, and sulfur aren't removed as well. Apparently, this tech for lithium extraction can be used for other things as well. If true, it would be HUGE for Lanxess. They have to treat brine spills as a HAZMAT clean up. If you spill drinkable water, no issues. That's speculation based on discussions with people. If it were a byproduct of STLHF's process, that would be additional revenue albeit not as glamorous as 99.9% lithium. I think what people aren't realizing is that there is no other method or situation like this. That's why STLHF hand picked Lanxess over Albermarle. Albermarle tried it with another group and it failed miserably. Just FYI, Albermarle is looking at going into EV battery production.
Posted by 1234567k
Baton rouge
Member since Nov 2015
2067 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 7:23 pm to
lol I think there is some confusion between TETRA and TESLA.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27331 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 7:27 pm to
Posted by RedMustang
Member since Oct 2011
6851 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 7:43 pm to
I picked up another thousand shares today at 1.86. Keeping the faith.
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3131 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 7:53 am to
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I think this is not accurate.
The waste steams are from bromine plants not oil producers.


I think this is not accurate. The brine “waste” stream (feed stream for STL) is a byproduct from the O&G manufacturers in the area. That stream is usually sent to Br manufacturers in the area as a swap agreement. They (Alb and Chemtura) take the O&G tailbrine and use it for a variety of things. Br extraction, cooling, whatever. Then they send their spent process tailbrine back to the O&G manufacturers who turn around and use it as injection fluid.

The Tetra deal looks like they are analyzing tailbrine of O&G wells in the area to see if it is Li heavy enough to use as feed stock. Those are small companies and if oil prices stay low they shut those wells down, thereby not producing the brine waste stream.

I don’t think Albemarle is going to send a competitor feed stock for a lithium process. Does Lanx have enough volume to keep that running? And what is their contractual commitment to supply injection fluid to other wells in the area? Those are the only guys extracting bromine in Arkansas.
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 7:57 am
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