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re: Discussion of Fed Liquidity’s Impact on Equity Markets

Posted on 7/30/20 at 9:27 pm to
Posted by RedStickBR
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Posted on 7/30/20 at 9:27 pm to
$16B decrease in Fed’s total assets this week:

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Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/30/20 at 9:32 pm to
quote:

The 10-year bottomed at 0.569% on March 9 before recovering above 1% later that month. By April 1, it was close to testing that level again (0.582%) before a minor recovery and eventual drop to 0.570% mid-late April. Today marks the third lowest print on record, as the 10-year is currently trading a


10-year now at 0.536%
Posted by wutangfinancial
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Posted on 8/3/20 at 12:55 pm to
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
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Posted on 8/3/20 at 5:16 pm to
Wow - this is where I parked my car. Haven't seen one of these conversations in a while but there's been a lot of good ground covered.

This is just a quick comment, I'll follow up up with a more detailed response later.

I do think two important aspect that haven't been covered is the background history on the Fed's rules that (annoyingly) still date back to the post Depression acts. This basically dictates how they conduct most of their liquidity programs.

Also the other important aspect is the laundry list of capital rules (CCAR, DFAST, GSIB scores, BASEL, SLR, and LCR) that have created a Rube Goldberg cartoon of bank capital constrains. The Fed has been effectively trying to move balance sheet constraints from dealers to them where possible.

Where it shows up - FRA-OIS, EUR and JPY cross-currency basis (there is a LIBOR basis and OIS basis), and CP market clearing at first. This was critical area 1 that was fixed in late Mar early Apr, the rest gets murkier but can comment later.

Nice job all
This post was edited on 8/3/20 at 5:16 pm
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 7:00 pm to
Jump in wherever you want or feel free to take the convo in a different direction. The one to-do item on my list is to refresh the framework I initially posted on Page 3. I've got some refinements to make there. Look forward to having you in this discussion.
Posted by Hussss
Living the Dream
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 8/4/20 at 10:00 am to
The game has changed. The Fed is now under the umbrella of the Treasury. Enron style, off balance sheet accounting gimmicks so that they can literally do anything.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/4/20 at 10:08 am to
If a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it would you still be wrong??
Posted by Hussss
Living the Dream
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6742 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 10:10 am to
Holy water, try a sip
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 10:11 am to
Based on your posts I thought Kool-Aid is your drink of choice...
Posted by Hussss
Living the Dream
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6742 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 10:20 am to
No matter the topic nor the OP, 90% of your posts are negative

The mouth speaks from the heart

Get your heart right so that you may be ready for the Grand Finale when it comes

Peace and love to you and yours
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/4/20 at 10:44 am to
quote:

90% of your posts are negative
Says the guy who constantly posts about the coming of fire in the sky and the end of the world...
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30553 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 10:45 am to
The frick are you blabbing about man? If you think the end of the world is near then why are you on Money Talk?
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
5593 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

The game has changed. The Fed is now under the umbrella of the Treasury. Enron style, off balance sheet accounting gimmicks so that they can literally do anything.

Only 13(3) facilities are under the purview of the Treasury, and that's just for oversight rather than operation and execution. The street handles the 13(3) facilities execution. Blackrock for the SMCCF, PIMCO for the CPFF, etc.. The original liquidity programs via Tsy and MBS purchases are entirely on the Fed's purview. Operations dictated by the Fed. The Tsy does basically nothing with these except sending the check to the ESF for the Fed to use.

Accounting tricks don't matter and they've existed since the creation of the original god awful 12 regional Fed system in 1913. The numbers will always show up, you just have to look where to find it.

The Fed has no leverage constraints other than the ones they make up, e.g. the "10x" figure they've noted for these facilities, which is kind of worthless because they won't even get the total capital entrusted by the Treasury. The PMCCF and MLSF are designed so poorly that nobody uses them.
This post was edited on 8/4/20 at 12:15 pm
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 12:36 pm to
not fooling anyone with your alters @lsurussian

adding this one to my ignore list too
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 12:37 pm to
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not fooling anyone with your alters @lsurussian

You got me!! I can't get anything past you!
This post was edited on 8/4/20 at 12:39 pm
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 12:40 pm to
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BennyAndTheInkJets


Holy hell, where have you been?
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
5593 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 1:30 pm to
Over the past 3-4 years, too many places to count, honestly. But now WFH is making me lose it.

I can't beleive how much I miss flying for 24 hours to somewhere I can't speak the language just so I can sit in a hotel room for a week listening to 50 management teams, central bankers, and politicians lie to me.

It's just not the same being lied to on Zoom. :(

ETA: I've even posted on the Poli board a couple times recently. That's where I am now, mentally.
This post was edited on 8/4/20 at 1:32 pm
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11090 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 2:13 pm to
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That's where I am now, mentally.


LMAO I think that's everybody on this site

quote:

so I can sit in a hotel room for a week listening to 50 management teams, central bankers, and politicians lie to me.


That sounds like a blast. You work in sell side research or something like that?
This post was edited on 8/4/20 at 2:14 pm
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
5593 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 2:25 pm to
Last time I ventured these boards I was on the trade floor for a very large bond shop, now I’m at a global macro HF.
This post was edited on 8/4/20 at 2:26 pm
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11090 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 2:33 pm to
Bonds and global macro - I'll be interested to hear what you have to say about the funding markets that you mentioned earlier I'm sure you're way more knowledgable on that stuff. Did y'all have a fun March?
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