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re: Debt-To-Income Ratio - What’s typical in todays world?

Posted on 10/25/23 at 1:22 pm to
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26392 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 1:22 pm to
I’m around 14%. No issues saving or maxing out 401k. Money isn’t really an issue although we are concerned with losing some of our income in recession.

We were closer to 40% when we bought our first house 10 years ago. Things were really tight back then. We struggled a lot to save. Don’t recommend going that high.

I would think 20% is fairly easy if you aren’t too crazy with typical day to day expenses. I wouldn’t go beyond 25 or 30% but that’s me.

IMO total income also matters here because we all have other monthly expenses that are difficult to cut.
This post was edited on 10/25/23 at 1:26 pm
Posted by LSUEEAlum
Member since Oct 2013
832 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 1:23 pm to
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But that’s bold as hell to assume you will be satisfied staying in the same house, in the same location for the next 50-60 years.


Guess I should rephrase. The house where I will spend 25ish years raising kids. After that hopefully down size and not have a mortgage.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26392 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 1:27 pm to
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Most apps coming in that I see today are 45-50. I’ve closed some as high as 57.


I sure hope to hell their income climbs. That’s REALLY hard unless they have income that isn’t reported. Or they are getting family help.
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
2259 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 1:59 pm to
I hear it way too often. What does anyone know about “forever” in their 20s?!
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
2259 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 2:08 pm to
And what about credit card balances, that are paid in full each month?

I use a CC for virtually every bill and purchase. Paid in full by autopay monthly. That equates to about 3x any other monthly debt payment. Does that officially elevate my DTI well above what it be considering only my mortgage?
Posted by SouthPlains
Member since Jul 2023
1046 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 2:13 pm to
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Do you mind sharing what this horrible rate is?


7.25%

Broker kept telling us to hold off on locking in until closer to the build being finished and closing date. I fell for it like a tard as a first time homebuyer.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
40227 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 2:28 pm to
No that is not part of the calculation.
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
2259 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 3:55 pm to
If I paid mine off today, I’d still have to pay half of it for taxes and insurance. I’d be more annoyed by that.
Posted by Bermuda99
Member since Jun 2021
110 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:10 pm to
Yes it is. The minimum payment on any credit card is part of the calculation.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/27/23 at 6:54 am to
Ok so add like 35 bucks to your debt number
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
7086 posts
Posted on 10/27/23 at 7:19 am to
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But that’s bold as hell to assume you will be satisfied staying in the same house, in the same location for the next 50-60 years.



We bought a new house earlier this year and I've already told my wife 5 years tops.

I don't know the circumstances that will lead up to us leaving this house, but it will absolutely happen.
Posted by ThatsAFactJack
East Coast
Member since Sep 2012
1599 posts
Posted on 10/27/23 at 11:41 am to
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npt817
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Most apps coming in that I see today are 45-50. I’ve closed some as high as 57.


This is insane!!!! I'm at 16% currently, $100k income. Just bought 3 acres in the country and building forever home in about 18-24 months. Will be at about 23-24% DTI once the house closes, and that is pushing my comfort level.

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