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Company suspended 401k match. Should I shift savings to ROTH until it returns?

Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:42 am
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21331 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:42 am
This happened about 6 months ago so I really should have asked this then but the difference in my take home will only be something like $40 a month to shift my pre tax deductions from my 401k to max out my Roth. I’m not getting a match so I’d rather get this money taxed now and grow “tax free” for the next 40 years. I’m at the beginning of my career if that matters at all mid 20s.
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
2003 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:44 am to
......and keep adding when the company resumes the 401
Posted by jmtigers
1826.71 miles from USC
Member since Sep 2003
4970 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:53 am to
You also could use this opportunity to knock out any debt assuming you have some.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:55 am to
quote:

I’m not getting a match so I’d rather get this money taxed now and grow “tax free” for the next 40 years
This only matters if your taxes will be higher at time of withdrawal. You want to pay taxes in or out at a lower rate.
Posted by ReadyPlayer1
Clown World
Member since Oct 2020
1062 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:04 am to
Piggybacking here. My new company 401k options suck badly.
Should I cut back to 8% for my free match and start a Roth IRA. Already have a little chunk in my old compays 401k that's doing well.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4112 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:32 am to
quote:

My new company 401k options suck badly. Should I cut back to 8% for my free match and start a Roth IRA.


I would. You'd be diversifying the tax implications, as well as being more in control of the investments. Also, in case of a real emergency, you'd have free access to your invested portion (but avoid that if at all possible).
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72717 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 11:06 am to
work for yourself and get out that problem.
This post was edited on 12/17/20 at 11:09 am
Posted by ReadyPlayer1
Clown World
Member since Oct 2020
1062 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 11:14 am to
Ya it would have to be extremely bad for me to take money out. I like the deversifying part also. Appreciat the response !
Posted by absolute692
US of A, MFer
Member since Feb 2007
3965 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 12:21 pm to
Not sure of your financial situation or compensation, but I would recommend putting whatever % that will makeup the contribution limit each year. Next year max is unchanged from this year at $19,500.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
13629 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

This only matters if your taxes will be higher at time of withdrawal. You want to pay taxes in or out at a lower rate.


This is only only matters if you assume the tax rates will be the same now as they may be in 30 years.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36119 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 12:54 pm to
You might max out your 401k contributions first for the tax reduction.

If you are allowed to take a deduction for a traditional IRA you could do that instead of a roth so you can afford to save more. If you are making too much money for deduction for the traditional then do the roth
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:08 pm to
Do you know what they will be in 30 years?
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
13629 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

Do you know what they will be in 30 years?


Of course not, but if I had to guess I would say they will be higher across the board. Pay now v. pay later is just not an easy analysis because of so many variables/unknowns.
Posted by CaptainJ47
Gonzales
Member since Nov 2007
7353 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 11:46 pm to
How much are you putting aside if the difference is $40? Not trying to be a smartass just helping understand the amounts.
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