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Cathie Wood has not had a great year

Posted on 1/5/22 at 3:47 pm
Posted by glorymanutdtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
3791 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 3:47 pm
Are ARK funds going to continue the downtrends? I have ARKW and ARKQ.

Still have a huge profit on both of them. Should I think of moving away from them?
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36463 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 4:35 pm to
Is there a sister growth innovation ETF similar to ARKK that doesn’t attract the shorts?
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

Still have a huge profit on both of them. Should I think of moving away from them?
isn't huge profit the goal? if yes, sell.
Posted by thatguy777
br
Member since Feb 2007
2384 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 5:52 pm to
Close to bottom
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
14450 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 6:00 pm to
Cathie's faithful followers are starting to feel the pressure. They were up so much for most of 2020 and early 2021 but now that gain is starting to shrink If it was me i would have sold about 3 or 4 months ago.
This post was edited on 1/6/22 at 5:52 am
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12881 posts
Posted on 1/6/22 at 8:32 am to
I’m still in. The portfolio looks good for future growth.

Decide where you want to be on the spectrum of being more of an investor or a day trader. Wood seems to be aligned as more of an investor with her portfolio. This means annual returns are great during the good years, but less worrisome when there’s a leveling off period.

If you’re assessing limited upside in the fund’s largest holdings, get out.

Also, give Fooled By Randomness (Nassim Talib) a read. It helped me give less weight to singular data points or even fluctuations in annual returns.
Posted by Bdiddy
Member since Jul 2021
233 posts
Posted on 1/6/22 at 9:15 am to
Congratulations on the huge gains. You must have been in pretty early as most of her investors have lost money since most of the money piled in early in 2021. It's interesting that she considers her holdings as being in deep value territory as the aggregate P/E is 49. She also expects annual returns of up to 40% over the next five years. Since I am an old conservative investor, my portfolio goal is 5% annually over the next 10 years. I'm sure I'll be kicking myself and wondering how I missed the seemingly obvious opportunity ahead in innovation and crypto. If it becomes a bloodbath, I might be able to toss in a few bucks. Being near retirement age, and not having a huge positive cash flow really limits the risk I can take. When I am confronted with a hard choice, I usually hedge, which might mean selling half and keeping the rest. At least making the wrong choice won't be devastating.
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13104 posts
Posted on 1/6/22 at 9:22 am to
Not sure her company survives 2022 at this rate...
Posted by glorymanutdtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
3791 posts
Posted on 1/6/22 at 3:15 pm to
I got in 2018 so I will still be having good gains.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31110 posts
Posted on 1/6/22 at 4:10 pm to
I remember a thread not that long ago where a guy was thinking about cashing out everything he had and going all in on ARKK. Hopefully he didn't do that.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33403 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:25 am to
She must be a HUGE net destroyer of investor capital at this point. Does that mean the media will stop asking her opinion as if it were relevant? Nope.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14447 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:30 am to
quote:

The crazy thing about this is that she’s
not so much rooting for the stocks she
owns to go up, but rooting for the ones
she doesn’t own to go down. I have
never seen a portfolio manager like this
before. You buy stocks, you root for
those stocks, that is pretty much all
you care about. Why should it matter
what other stocks do?



quote:

What value stocks do should be of
concern to Cathie Wood whatsoever. She
doesn’t need them to fail for her
strategy to succeed. The only reason she needs them to fail is for her to prove a point, which is outside the
scope of her duties as portfolio manager.


This is what one guy wrote about her.
This post was edited on 1/24/22 at 10:30 am
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13104 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:35 am to
She was mindlessly buying the dip on her more trashy stocks over the past year. Wonder what will happen when she runs out of cash and is forced to sell some of her losers... YIKES. She sold her main winner (TSLA) and bought more trash here and the chickens are coming home to roost now. Without her call on Tesla no one would have ever noticed her.
Posted by glorymanutdtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
3791 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:38 am to
If this continues for 1 more month, I'm going to lose all my gains.

Moved some from Arkw to VUG.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16484 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:45 am to
quote:

They were up so much for most of 2020 and early 2021 but now that gain is starting to shrink If it was me i would have sold about 3 or 4 months ago.


One of my best timing in investing was on ARKK. I bought in around $50, sold half my shares at $150 and the rest at $100. Today is the first time I've checked it since then. When did it start tanking?
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40848 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:58 am to
I posted on the main ark thread. You should read up on the Janus funds
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33403 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 11:05 am to
quote:

he was mindlessly buying the dip on her more trashy stocks over the past year. Wonder what will happen when she runs out of cash and is forced to sell some of her losers... YIKES. She sold her main winner (TSLA) and bought more trash here and the chickens are coming home to roost now. Without her call on Tesla no one would have ever noticed her.
Also, consider this: TSLA is her biggest position...and it's HIGHER now than it was when ARKK made it's all high!
Posted by Bdiddy
Member since Jul 2021
233 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 10:51 am to
I just saw this today. I am not smart enough to hazard a guess as to which way this will go amidst all of this volatility. She is urging investors in her funds to average down. I thought I would post it as a marker for a moment in time. As volatile as these funds are, the only thing for sure is that this is great or horrible advice. No middling results for her. LINK
Posted by Bdiddy
Member since Jul 2021
233 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 9:42 am to
Interesting article in MarketWatch today. A MorningStar analyst reviewed the cash flows, and for ARKK, they calculated that $15.7 billion went into the fund, and $11.6 billion are the current assets. Her five year record is often touted, but there are few investors that were around for the full ride. I have been fascinated by this whole story, as evidenced by this being my third (I think) post.
Posted by Bdiddy
Member since Jul 2021
233 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 6:23 pm to
My estimation is that if Cathie is correct, her investors should expect a return of around 90% in the next 4 1/4 years. ARKK was at 60 when she stated that her investors would make 50% per year over the next five years. At the current price of 31, I calculated that one would have to make 71% annually to hit the original target of 455. However, for her to deliver on the original promise, she only has roughly 4 1/4 years so I had to do a calculation and interpolate to get 90%. I think it's going to happen.
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