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Capital One Venture Card

Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:09 am
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30841 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:09 am
Tell me about this card. I always see the double miles thing and have just recently enrolled in Southwest and Delta miles programs and don't know a whole lot about how any of it works.

So let's say I spent 3k on my credit card in a month, I assume that means I earn 6k miles? How many miles does it typically take to earn free flights (let's say domestic).

Can you cash them in on any airline?

Trying to decide between this and a 1.5% cash back on all purchases card.

I currently have 1% cash back and 2% on groceries.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39579 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:29 am to
The Capital One Venture card is a 2% cash back card with an annual fee. Do not be fooled that they called their cash back "miles".

The card is only good for the sign up bonus. No one should keep this card and pay the annual fee, as there are free 2% cash back cards available (Double Cash) or just better options in general.
This post was edited on 1/4/18 at 9:30 am
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27396 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:40 am to
You can redeem points for travel expense erasure after the fact. Seems to clear at a higher percentage.
Posted by Jblac15
Member since Mar 2011
687 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:48 am to
I like the Venture Card. I'm not completely up to date on the latest cards or "travel-hacking," but for me it's a good card. We've racked up a decent amount of points over the last 2 years and they're really easy to use.

We haven't used it for flights, but have used it for hotels and such. If you initially book using the points, you get more value for your points. If you forget to book with points, the card will recognize any travel expenses, and gives you an option to use points on the back-end to clear the charges. I swiped my card at a Hampton Inn last month for $180.00 and once the charge cleared, I was able to use 18,000 points to eliminate the charge.

Will most likely open one in my wife's name soon so we can take advantage of the bonus again.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30841 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:03 am to
quote:

The card is only good for the sign up bonus. No one should keep this card and pay the annual fee, as there are free 2% cash back cards available (Double Cash) or just better options in general.



Which ones would you recommend?

Also, it's pretty bad for your credit to constantly be opening new cards or not really?
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82026 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:37 am to
Looks like their ads blitz is working
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:41 am to
Chase Freedom was a better card a few months ago. Not sure if that's still the case, but I'd look into it.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30841 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:57 am to
It looks like Freedom is just 1.5% cash back. Am I missing something?

I pay them off every month so the rates and all are irrelevant to me.

I just want to know what's the best to get rewards.

I'm not sure I understand the whole reimbursement aspect of the Venture card if it's used for travel.
This post was edited on 1/4/18 at 10:59 am
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39579 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:56 pm to
quote:


You can redeem points for travel expense erasure after the fact. Seems to clear at a higher percentage.


It's 2% bruh. The card is objectively marketing fluff that people unfortunately fall victim to.

You actually raise another negative about it. The cash back you earn can only be applied to travel related purchases, while Double Cash (again just a good example) quite literally will send you a check for $25 dollars (the lowest amount you can request) whenever you request it or alternatively apply it to your overall bill.

There are other options out there too in the 2/2.5% range or if you like maximizing cash back, get all the no annual fee cash back cards that have multipliers and spread your spend over all of them. It may take longer to redeem but you'd be ahead.

I don't even do that cash back game but it's my goal in life to protect people from paying Capital One money for a non competitive product that uses misleading terminology to confuse people.
This post was edited on 1/4/18 at 10:58 pm
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30841 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 9:01 am to
1. Does the 3 months start upon application approval or activation?

2. After reading several online reviews several state something along the lines of "if you like to travel and want good value this is the card for you". Why the disconnect between those sites and some folks on here? What makes it "noncompetitive"?
This post was edited on 1/5/18 at 9:03 am
Posted by b-rab2
N. Louisiana
Member since Dec 2005
12576 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 10:09 am to
quote:

I don't even do that cash back game but it's my goal in life to protect people from paying Capital One money for a non competitive product that uses misleading terminology to confuse people.


please explain to me? cause the $60 a year for the card that I drop $25-30,000 a year still nets me $540 a year towards travel or gift cards or even uber rides.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39579 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 10:21 am to
quote:

please explain to me? cause the $60 a year for the card that I drop $25-30,000 a year still nets me $540 a year towards travel or gift cards or even uber rides.


See that $60? There are cards that earn the same 2% cash back that Venture does without charging you that fee. So every year you use Venture you're actually behind by $60 vs another card company. If you were to augment your strategy to add cash back cards that offer 3-5% on certain categories, you're even further behind.
This post was edited on 1/5/18 at 10:27 am
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39579 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 10:25 am to
quote:


1. Does the 3 months start upon application approval or activation?


Approval

quote:

Why the disconnect between those sites and some folks on here? What makes it "noncompetitive"?



There is a disconnect because those sites are paid by Capital One to push conversions and receive a kickback for doing so.

It is non-competitive for many reasons that would take me all day, but the simplest one is the most obvious. They charge an annual fee so you can earn 2% cash back (they call it "miles" but they really aren't). Other cards are available that offer the same or better cash back that don't charge an annual fee.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30841 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 10:58 am to
True I'm not crazy about the annual fee but I get $500 just for signing up which is above what I've seen from any other similar cards. So it would take over 6 years for the $95 fee just to catch that. And I could always cancel after a year or two.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39579 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

but I get $500 just for signing up


quote:

And I could always cancel after a year or two.



This what I suggested at the beginning
Posted by b-rab2
N. Louisiana
Member since Dec 2005
12576 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 1:21 pm to
Give me a new card to get then.
Posted by b-rab2
N. Louisiana
Member since Dec 2005
12576 posts
Posted on 1/7/18 at 2:29 pm to
Bump
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39579 posts
Posted on 1/7/18 at 5:09 pm to
Alliant Cash Back card is 3% on all purchases first year and 2.5% thereafter. Fee card same as Cap One but better earning.

Citi Double Cash as mentioned above is 2%.

Use Discover and Freedom for rotating 5x categories. Pro tip: if these cards have the same bonus for a Quarter say Groceries, use one card during the bonus months as you go. Use the other one to prepay your groceries by buying a gift card from the store you frequent to use in following months.

Alternatively, you and a spouse can each get your own card in your own name (Not AU though you could add each other as AUs) giving you $3,000 a quarter instead of $1,500 in eligible cash back. Use same method as above.

FYI: Discover doubles cash back after first year, so technically first year you earn 10% on bonused spend.

Uber card is 5% cash back at restaurants

PenFed is 5% gas

Google is your friend. These are off the top of my head.

All those but the first are no fee. I've just made you more money than the Trump tax cut, JK.


If you are a USAA member, they piloted a Limitless card that was no fee 2.5% cash back but you have to live in certain states and have it offered to you.
This post was edited on 1/7/18 at 5:27 pm
Posted by secondandshort
Member since Jan 2014
1028 posts
Posted on 1/7/18 at 5:12 pm to
Citi MasterCard 2% on all purchases. 1% when you buy 1% when you pay. It’s not bad if you aren’t interested in having to have several cards to maximize points.
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