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Building a Brand on Amazon

Posted on 1/18/17 at 5:58 pm
Posted by klsu24
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Posted on 1/18/17 at 5:58 pm
Does anyone have any experience doing this and how difficult is it to start?
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 1/18/17 at 6:10 pm to
What items are you selling? That will affect the answer.

ETA: Also, are you a manufacturer or retailer or both?
This post was edited on 1/18/17 at 6:15 pm
Posted by TigerMan79
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Posted on 1/18/17 at 8:39 pm to
I've actually been thinking about this myself. I'm not currently a retailer or a manufacturer but thinking about getting into retail.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:45 pm to
Seems like something super easy when you read but reality is it takes a lot of different skills to really stand out.

Photography is key. Photo editing also important but the amount needed is directly proportional to how well you create product shots.

Then there is the sourcing and logistics. Amazon will do the real heavy lifting but you have to get it to them and be confident you are sending exactly what you say.

Sending the wrong product too many times and boom you're no longer selling on amazon.

Then you need some good explanatory copy for to fill out your products.

Also consider sending out free product to amazon reviewers to get more ratings which will drive your initial brand growth and search positioning if you get positive feedback. So that's capital out the door immediately.

Oh then you need to keep the supply chain going because you need to meet amazon fulfillment numbers selling out and staying that way hurts you.

Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 9:25 am to
Find the most trusted Amazon reviewers and give them your product for free. You have to build a review base to have any credibility.

While those reviewers will say that they received the product for free in their reviews, they are still trusted because Amazon gives them a badge that "certifies" them.

I buy A LOT of stuff on Amazon and have looked at tins of categories of merchandise. Generally speaking, good product reviews is the #1 thing that draws consumers to consider purchasing an item.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 9:45 am to
I'm guessing you saw that reddit post from earlier this week?


It looks really tempting and "easy" money, but I have to believe that for every person who's able to make 6+ figures a year doing merch sales on Amazon, there's 5000 who spend hundreds if not thousands with nothing to show for it.
Posted by GFunk
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:47 am to
Anyone doing drop-shipping of items on Amazon? IE-warehousing super-popular items on Amazon and then-when an order is placed-Amazon contacts you, you ship it to the customer?

You're basically a warehouse for Amazon and you net the profit from the sale.

I have read a few folks doing it online but they all work from home already and its a supplement to their existing work.
Posted by darnol91
Member since Jun 2015
749 posts
Posted on 1/20/17 at 8:51 am to
quote:

Anyone doing drop-shipping of items on Amazon? IE-warehousing super-popular items on Amazon and then-when an order is placed-Amazon contacts you, you ship it to the customer?

You're basically a warehouse for Amazon and you net the profit from the sale.

I have read a few folks doing it online but they all work from home already and its a supplement to their existing work.


Where have you read about this? Is it something that Amazon publicizes or do you contact them directly?I would imagine margins are very, very low, and this would only be profitable in a case where you already have a warehouse with extra space and personnel, maybe even some software to go along with it, but I'd still be interested in reading further into it.
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 1:03 pm to
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Also consider sending out free product to amazon reviewers to get more ratings which will drive your initial brand growth and search positioning if you get positive feedback. So that's capital out the door immediately.


I thought this was banned by amazon? You can still do this?

How much of a cut does amazon take for handling the shipping/fulfillment?
Posted by nolanola
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 1:33 pm to
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How much of a cut does amazon take for handling the shipping/fulfillment?



If you're having Amazon stock the product at their warehouse ("Amazon FBA") they take 15% including credit processing. However there are some other charges involved such as customer returns, inbound freight, etc.
Posted by nolanola
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 1:35 pm to
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I'm guessing you saw that reddit post from earlier this week?



There are thousands of Reddit threads about this.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 1:38 pm to


So factoring a flat 20% for amazon fees is a pretty decent estimate? That includes shipping, right?

And can you still send products/samples to amazon reviewers?
This post was edited on 1/21/17 at 1:39 pm
Posted by nolanola
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 5:48 pm to
quote:

So factoring a flat 20% for amazon fees is a pretty decent estimate? That includes shipping, right?



Yep, I would say that has been a good number to use in my experience.

I'm not completely familiar with the new review rules. I sell on Amazon but I sell manufacturer branded products not private label or my own products so I don't have any focus on product reviews at this time.
Posted by TheOcean
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 6:47 pm to
Mind if I pick your brain via email? Looking to start importing and private labeling specialty coffee from South America. Would like your opinion on marketing on amazon and whether to use amazon fulfillment.
Posted by nolanola
Member since Nov 2010
7635 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 9:27 pm to
Sure, I'll do my best to direct in the right place. I don't do any private labeling on Amazon but I'll answer what I can. From what I understand it is a bit harder to do food products. Certain categories are "gated" and you need to be approved by Amazon. I believe food is one of these.

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This post was edited on 1/21/17 at 9:28 pm
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 9:30 pm to
quote:

If you're having Amazon stock the product at their warehouse ("Amazon FBA") they take 15% including credit processing. However there are some other charges involved such as customer returns, inbound freight, etc.


Amazon takes the 15% on all sales. FBA, drop ship, seller fulfilled.

They also pass through their S&H costs to you if you use FBA, and there can be long term storage fees if your inventory moves slowly.
Posted by nolanola
Member since Nov 2010
7635 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 10:10 pm to
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They also pass through their S&H costs to you if you use FBA


If you are an FBA seller (meaning Amazon stocks and ships on your behalf) you only pay the inbound shipping to Amazon. You would also cover the shipping costs for returns if the buyer says there was an issue such as a defect. Amazon covers the cost of shipping the item to Prime members.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
79128 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 10:14 pm to
quote:

If you are an FBA seller (meaning Amazon stocks and ships on your behalf) you only pay the inbound shipping to Amazon. You would also cover the shipping costs for returns if the buyer says there was an issue such as a defect. Amazon covers the cost of shipping the item to Prime members.


Good clarification. Not all buyers are Prime members in which case you get nickel and dimed further.

Posted by NolaCaliber
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 7:26 pm to
Wholesale?
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