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Betting Against the Dollar

Posted on 6/26/20 at 11:04 pm
Posted by Skeezer
Member since Apr 2017
2296 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 11:04 pm
This looks to be a good bet over the next couple of years.
Where to look?
Denmark
Switzerland
Sweden

All three in good fiscal shape and not EURO.

Thoughts? Any other currencies you are thinking about?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 11:26 pm to
There are several ETFs which short the USD.

I’ve always been told that currency trading is one of the riskiest trades anyone can do. And the easiest way to get to a million dollars by trading currencies is to first start with two million dollars...
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 11:49 pm to
do not do it dude.. I'm begging you

milkshake theory read it before it's too late. gl
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24833 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 7:39 pm to
I have a buddy who literally has made 20-30M on currency trading. We visit him every year at Islesworth to go to the pelicans v magic game.

LINK /

Posted by Skeezer
Member since Apr 2017
2296 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 6:26 am to
quote:

I’ve always been told that currency trading is one of the riskiest trades anyone can do. And the easiest way to get to a million dollars by trading currencies is to first start with two million dollars...


I’m not looking into buying Iraqi currency or anything.

But rather nations with strong balance sheets and little debt.

Posted by Decisions
Member since Mar 2015
1474 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 10:29 am to
I think it’s a really bad bet, personally.

We’ve pumped trillions into the market over the past few months and the dollar has only held firm or strengthened relative to most currencies. Why? Because the majority of that debt was bought by foreign investors. They need dollars to service their dollar-denominated debt and many are simply buying security.

The U.S. will be the only major consumption market in the world very shortly and we’re in the process of cutting our trade down to only five partners: Britain, Canada, Mexico, South Korea, and Japan. Anyone else who had been reliant on U.S. trade is about to be in a bind. What is one of the things an export-dependent country does to increase competitiveness? Why devalue its currency, of course.

Most countries in this day and age (including Denmark, Switzerland, and Sweden) are heavily dependent on exports. Most will be in a race to the currency bottom before too long in an attempt to retain market share. Don’t bet on any of those currencies.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 10:57 am to
quote:

But rather nations with strong balance sheets and little debt.
And a fully convertible currency?

That narrows it down to Switzerland.
Posted by oklahogjr
Gold Membership
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/28/20 at 11:18 am to
I love me some risk but jesus dude. you'd have better odds at a roulette wheel than out smarting the currency market guys.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4087 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 2:29 pm to
Unless you REALLY want to be a tasty little fish among the forex sharks, here’s some currency ETFs to look at:

Top 28 Currency ETFs
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14505 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 2:49 pm to
Honestly... Bitcoin.
Posted by mrgreenpants
paisaland
Member since Mar 2018
1421 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

I have a buddy who literally has made 20-30M on currency trading. We visit him every year at Islesworth to go to the pelicans v magic game.

LINK /


he made 20M teaching/selling dreams..? or he made it actually trading?

i've traded the cable for the past 12-15 years or so..off and on.
strickly trading the price action and using correlations for the determining the buy/sell signals.
..and only during london/new york overlap.

i prefer trading equities.. good enough volume and less time needed on the computer.

but there is definitely much more reward potential(and risk) with forex.
if you wanted to try turning 10k into 1M in an afternoon.....you could. (you could also lose it in an instant too)



Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37705 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

Honestly... Bitcoin.


I'm no fanboy but I can't think of a safer play.
Posted by Skeezer
Member since Apr 2017
2296 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 4:52 pm to


Even though it’s their own currency, the Frank is nearly always locked to the euro. It never varies by more than a tiny bit.
The Swiss messed up with they made that change. In my opinion anyway.

The danish and Swedish krone seem to be not too risky. Both nations are in phenomenal shape in regard to debt.

I’ll look at polish and chech as well.

It’s just so foreign to me. I need to learn more before I attempt to trade.



This post was edited on 6/28/20 at 4:53 pm
Posted by Stiles
Member since Sep 2017
3404 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 11:03 pm to
quote:

We visit him every year at Islesworth to go to the pelicans v magic game.


I was really looking forward to seeing Hart dapping you up on tv.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27211 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 12:33 am to
How would u do that
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 1:35 am to
quote:

Even though it’s their own currency, the Frank is nearly always locked to the euro. It never varies by more than a tiny bit.
The Swiss messed up with they made that change. In my opinion anyway.

The danish and Swedish krone seem to be not too risky. Both nations are in phenomenal shape in regard to debt.

I’ll look at polish and chech as well.

It’s just so foreign to me. I need to learn more before I attempt to trade.
At least learn the Swiss currency is the franc not the Frank.
Posted by Skeezer
Member since Apr 2017
2296 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 5:20 pm to
quote:

At least learn the Swiss currency is the franc not the Frank.


Was it really that funny?
This post was edited on 6/29/20 at 5:20 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 5:26 pm to
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Was it really that funny?
I chuckled.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11096 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 5:36 pm to
It's probably more likely the dollar appreciates in this type of environment and the weakening would come on the other side of our draconian shut down. Even if that happens it could take a decade to do that kind of damage to a currency that is used for 2/3 of global trade. I do think the global bankers will want to transition off the dollarization in global trade. It gives the US way too much power and monetary policy can now be weaponized on smaller countries dependent on Fed policy.

Edit: of course I say that and we're seeing records set on foreign companies issuing even more dollar denominated debt lol
This post was edited on 6/29/20 at 5:41 pm
Posted by Skeezer
Member since Apr 2017
2296 posts
Posted on 7/15/20 at 8:22 am to
Well since my initial post I have made some decent money with the Swedish krona, danish krone, and Norwegian krone.

This post was edited on 7/15/20 at 8:23 am
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