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re: Best way to invest with 10 million for someone

Posted on 11/6/23 at 9:14 am to
Posted by UpstairsComputer
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 11/6/23 at 9:14 am to
This is such a funny question. I mean, if you're going on a message board to ask, then you should definitely not be in control of $10m to invest
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20580 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 9:47 am to
Bookmarked for when SLI finally pays off and moons it.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
47470 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:59 am to
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if you're going on a message board to ask, then you should definitely not be in control of $10m to invest

Exactly what I was going to say
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5571 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 11:28 am to
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Marrying into it.


Not financial advice, but marital advice. Hire a professional wealth advisor to manage this money. Don’t be the one that squanders the family fortune. Swing it around the country club and your social circle like a big dick if vanity is your thing, but otherwise stay out of it, live within the means of whatever you and your wife earn, enjoy life without the stress of can we pay our bills, and pass the baton of this wealth onto the next generation.

You never know when someone in your family will need serious support.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19421 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 12:45 pm to
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Best way to invest with 10 million for someone

Don't entrust someone with a 10 million dollar task that runs to a message board.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135699 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 3:11 pm to
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How so?
Fair question. Part of the answer depends on the FIV term to maturity, and who you think will control Congress during that timeframe.

But for now the top rate for <$650K would be 32%. I guess the point being made is Long-term cap gains for $500K w/o other income would run ~16.5% w/ NIIT included.
Bond interest is taxed at income rates, and would run ~27%.

State variables throw another hitch in that giddyup. Treasuries are state tax exempt.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38521 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 3:59 pm to
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But for now the top rate for <$650K would be 32%.
Where are you getting that?

quote:

Bond interest is taxed at income rates, and would run ~27%.

And this?
Posted by Sparetime
Lookin down at LA
Member since Sep 2014
972 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 12:29 pm to
House on canal Rd/ONO in OBA with 61 Garlington parked behind it.

Put the rest in Money market, Bills, and in checking to pay captain and crew.

Posted by 98eagle
Member since Sep 2020
3118 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 3:49 pm to
Put $9M in a Fidelity Money Market fund (and equivalents spread across financial institutions) currently earning about 5%. Put $1M in Bitcoin, preferably in a cold wallet that you maintain. If you feel uncomfortable with that open a Fidelity Crypto account.

You can live off $450K in annual interest right out of the gate. Be sure to pay quarterly taxes to account for this income.

Bitcoin is currently at $35K. Every time it triples going forward, sell 1/3rd of it. So when your $1M in BTC reaches $3M, sell 1/3rd and put another million in your money market fund (minus taxes), and let the remaining $2M in BTC triple again. When your $2M in BTC reaches $6M, sell $2M to cash to put in your Money Market funds and let $4M in BTC ride. Rinse, wash, repeat. Your money market accounts, annual interest and Bitcoin value will all grow over time.

Be sure to contact the IRS every time you plan to sell massive dollar amounts of BTC to arrange to make a one time tax payment via the Electronic Federal Tax Payment System. You must enroll to use this system. You can pay online or by phone. Check with your state's Department of Revenue to see if they have a similar system/process. Worst case would be you owe a 10% penalty on capital gains if you overlook this.

Once Spot BTC ETFs are available, convert some of your BTC over to a BTC Spot ETF in an IRA (up to the maximum allowable contribution limits based on your situation) and pay the taxes to backend convert it to Roth.

This plan allows you to sleep at night with guaranteed insured interest payments (that will increase over time), plus gives you good exposure to Bitcoin (and Spot BTC ETFs in the future) which protects against inflation, de-dollarization and collapse of the US dollar.

Ignore the stock market. Ignore Bitcoin volatility and wild price swings and just enjoy life living off of interest payments and follow this plan. Don't be frugal and make sure you travel and buy everything you want sooner rather than later within the limitation of your annual interest payments.
This post was edited on 11/7/23 at 4:46 pm
Posted by leeman101
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2020
2436 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 6:30 pm to
Loan it to the banks through CDs since they are paying around 5% right now.

Wait till down turn in real estate and buy real estate.
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