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Bears need to wave the white flag

Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:26 am
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
11286 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:26 am
The government will not let the market collapse. They develop a new program every week and release it as soon as we get bad news.
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 8:27 am
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126961 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:36 am to
When the news came across this morning about the 6 million newly unemployed claims the short sellers did this.



Then two minutes later when the Fed announced its $2.3 trillion loan guarantee program short sellers did this.

Posted by Douglas Quaid
Mars
Member since Mar 2010
4097 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:37 am to
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
7042 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:38 am to
Not sure how it's "sad" but k.
Posted by Douglas Quaid
Mars
Member since Mar 2010
4097 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:40 am to
There will come a time when Government and the Fed will have no more arrows left in the quiver.
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
7042 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:41 am to
You don't let the lion eat you with arrows in your quiver left.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126961 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:43 am to
quote:

You don't let the lion eat you with arrows in your quiver left.
Posted by Stiles
Member since Sep 2017
3403 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:51 am to
quote:

The government will not let the market collapse.

I think you’re right.

Not saying this is the right or wrong move; we’ve never had an economy shutdown due to government instituting it with ‘stay home’ orders. But it makes you think. It took almost 10 years to start to wind down the balance sheet after 08. When could this one start? 2040? Never? I wish my credit card worked this way.
Posted by Lgrnwd
Member since Jan 2018
5213 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:07 am to
Never
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
25852 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:09 am to
quote:

There will come a time when Government and the Fed will have no more arrows left in the quiver.


That’s the beauty. There is never an end to the arrows when you’re the one that can manufacture the arrows.
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16157 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:25 am to
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That’s the beauty. There is never an end to the arrows when you’re the one that can manufacture the arrows.


The problem with this long term is that those arrows will eventually turn into silly string.
Posted by Lgrnwd
Member since Jan 2018
5213 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:27 am to
Bingo
Posted by Decisions
Member since Mar 2015
1471 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:29 am to
quote:

But it makes you think. It took almost 10 years to start to wind down the balance sheet after 08. When could this one start? 2040? Never? I wish my credit card worked this way.


As long as the economy continues to grow 2-3% on average and the dollar remains the global reserve currency it will never be a problem. Seriously.

If either is compromised, though, we’ll wind up just like the EU.
Posted by Hussss
Living the Dream
Member since Oct 2016
6741 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:33 am to
What ya trying to say?

You alluding to the fact that by the time the tax slaves receive their $1200 rebate pittance, it will be worth around $1k in spending power? Sounds about right. Take groceries for example. Prices keep rising and packages keep shrinking.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
13615 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:33 am to
quote:

There will come a time when Government and the Fed will have no more arrows left in the quiver.


The thought is the economy will be back up and running at that time.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:35 am to
quote:

The problem with this long term is that those arrows will eventually turn into silly string.


Agreed, but long-term inflation is not the biggest risk right now. We can fight that battle later.
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
7042 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:37 am to
quote:

The problem with this long term is that those arrows will eventually turn into silly string.


Again, that problem doesn't really matter if you've already been eaten.

It's not ideal, but letting this just take it's course and letting the chips fall where they may, will greatly slow the economic recovery, and is going to put us in a worse position in 10 years. We need to get GDP moving again, and accelerating as fast as possible. We'd all rather not be in this situation, but that's not up for deabte.
Posted by LSUregit
Member since Dec 2013
1620 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:40 am to
The news is out. Feds printed more money, oil deal made, virus plateau... time to go short after today.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18111 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:41 am to
Bullshite - same line of fear porn that has been babbled for over a decade and been WRONG
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11077 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:42 am to
It was a bazooka in 2008. A rocket launcher in late 2018 and it's arrows in 2020. Congrats to the big banks on their impending deaths. Congrats to the USA on the zero rate Treasuries and deflationary stagnation. Congrats to the progressives who will get to spend our money on whatever pet project they choose while our wages stagnate even more.
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