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re: Beach Condo/Townhome Investment Property?

Posted on 4/9/18 at 1:38 pm to
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37162 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 1:38 pm to
One of my clients who owns about 50 units has a saying he likes to use...

You don't get rich today on real estate. You get rich tomorrow.

When you consider the non-use times, commissions, replacement, continual upgrades etc, you might cash flow some. It ain't gonna make you rich.

But like all other real estate, you are getting deferred growth and equity.
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
15571 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

I can tell you that if you are not within 2 blocks of the beach, I would guess you'll be luck to get 100 days a year of rentals. Especially if you don't have a pool.


It’s beachfront and there’s a community pool. It’s nothing fancy, but I’d rent it for a couple's trip.

It’s not move-in ready which may be that “deterrent” everyone’s asking about. The previous owners started to do upgrades, and gave up halfway through, so the upgrades need to be finished. That’s why I guessed around $30k of upgrades needed.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
34073 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

Is yours beachfront?


It is in a complex so the description I give is gulf view with direct beach access. Basically, you don't have a direct view of the gulf (that jumps the price up about 20 or 30k) but you can see it from the balcony. You go downstairs and a short walk down the board walk to the beach.
Posted by 3D
NJ
Member since Sep 2013
1028 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 8:21 am to
Dont forget the cable and the A/C bill. Plus, they will pump that A/C unit until it breaks down.
This post was edited on 4/10/18 at 8:22 am
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 8:26 am to
quote:

they will pump that A/C unit until it breaks down

I have 0 experience with rentals but have always wondered - is it common practice to limit the temperature range? It seems like you could save yourself a ton of headache simply by making sure that someone can't just walk in and crank it down to 62 for a July weekend in Florida.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
34073 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:05 pm to
1) Management company gives tenants directions for leaving the unit. What to set the thermostat is part of it
2) Cleaning crew is supposed to check it
3) The most effective, put a thermostat that you can monitor from your phone and adjust. I have that and will be adding the mechanism that shuts off the A/C when the patio door is open
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20528 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 3:32 pm to
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Dont forget the cable and the A/C bill. Plus, they will pump that A/C unit until it breaks down.


LOL, that's not how it works but okay....

Its a rental property, that's no different than owning any other rental property as far as maintenance goes.
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
24371 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 11:01 am to
quote:

I rent a beach houses or condo at least once a year, the greatest part of that is when I walk out on the last day, and the door locks behind me that is the last time I have to think about the place until I decide to rent again.


Best advice in the thread.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21968 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 2:54 pm to
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It looks like it'd be profitable pretty quickly, and then PLUS, you'd have your own vacation home to visit whenever you'd like. What do y'all think? Ruin my dream for me.


I looked into it a while back with the same thinking as you. Once I started figuring out all the different expenses and estimating when revenue/costs would actually be, I came to the conclusion that I should roughly break even on annual cash flow, but have to be prepared for possibility of a negative cash flow if major maintenance/repair items came up or if there was an event that led to a decline in bookings for a particular year (major hurricane hitting area or economic downturn). It was enough to deter me after I did a little research.

Posted by BobRoss
Member since Jun 2014
1694 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 3:34 pm to
I was discussing beach property ownership with a coworker once. His thought was, "why not buy a local property and use excess cash flow for your vacation?" and I thought that sounded like a pretty good idea.
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
15571 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

I was discussing beach property ownership with a coworker once. His thought was, "why not buy a local property and use excess cash flow for your vacation?" and I thought that sounded like a pretty good idea.


Great point. I'm really getting excited about Real Estate Investments lately, and I think y'all have successfully burst my bubble on vacation rentals, which is a GOOD thing! Maybe somewhere down the line, but definitely not for one of my first properties.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20528 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 6:45 am to
In order to actually make a reasonable return on any residential rental property, you generally need to buy it at below market value. You can't buy a $300k condo for $300k and expect to rent it out and make anything decent.

Anyone who owns multiple residential rentals, has a method or multiple methods of finding properties below market value.
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