Are stock analysts ever short term on anything?

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I don't think I've ever heard anyone of them say "for the short term I love stock ......"

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I day traded 1 to 2 month until expiration options throughout college and I don't think I ever held on to an option for more than about 3 or 4 days. I guess I am the minority, though.

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He said "stock analysts."

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Sort of a generic term. (Presume reference is to Moody's S&P et al.) Decent related article
Personal analysts damn sure better have "short term" opinions as well as mid-long term. The vast majority of stock consultants on CNBC, FBC seem short term focused, at least to a large extent. They are traders. Some are really good, FWIW.

In an old school way of thinking, investing in a stock was literally owning part of the company. Why would one own part of a company he did not believe in for the long term? I guess it would be like investing in a wife vs. well... investing in a means to a certain end . No highly paid psychologist (analyst) would likely tell you to invest in a hook up buddy. Same goes for stocks.

"Trader" does carry a different conotation. People who want to get in and get out and don't care about the business itself.

I follow. Forgive me if this is rehashing stuff that's already understood, but I guess the disconnect is that the only people in finance that really look at stuff like that (PEG's vs performance although I'm not sure about that relationship?) are research analysts and IBers doing capital markets and m&a stuff. Even then its not about throwing numbers and calculations together as finance typically only involves basic algebra and somewhat advanced statistics, its knowing the economic or industry trends behind the numbers, knowing if they make sense or making sense of them, and utilizing that to whatever degree. You certainly don't need a math degree to do most finance, although portfolio management and real trading (not day trader crap) gets pretty math technical, certainly way above what I can even remotely handle or have any desire to for that matter.

As much as your statement was practical so is mine (and obviously I have no knowledge of who you converse with), but there are certainly way more people who don't know what they're talking about than do and will just throw shite on the wall (and to tie it back, maybe refer to themselves as "analysts" of some variety). People that know what their talking about are generally way less accessible than those who don't, and I'm sure you know what I mean by that, eg not paying an asset manager a flat fee, paying JPM 30k a month for research or some fund 2/20 or what have you. Its why the rich get richer (you're rich right? )

The guys that are typically on cnbc are usually trader types (fast money, its up 5% on wtf news get INNNNN NOWW lookatmyhair!!!) or wealth management/asset management types that either a) don't know what their talking about and just generalize or talk their book [caveat why I don't watch CNBC for the most part] or b) look at stuff from a portfolio level and not necessarily an individual company level. I'm just making the point that there might be a lot of people who may refer to themselves or be referred to colloquially as "stock analysts" but its not an all encompassing term and in terms of finance industry those people all do vastly different things. Again, all semantics here (but it is a messageboard so), just laying out the different understandings for the sake of future conversations. Glad you decided to rejoin the conversations btw.

That's just a joke (thanks to thehiddenflask) but yeah I am taking level 2 this summer [again]. I don't watch hardly any news/finance tv but if I was forced to watch one it would without a doubt be bloomberg.

No, GLB re-combined the operations of commercial banks and investment banks, research analysts and investment bankers have always operated under the same umbrella in investment banks. GLB did nothing to change that, and in the post-internet bubble world there's a lot of separation between the two operations. The post-IPO bubble era is much more stringent on the separation between research, IB, and trading desks. Whether you choose to believe that is obviously up to you, but as stupid as GLB is, it didn't have anything to do with what you're suggesting.

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As much as your statement was practical so is mine (and obviously I have no knowledge of who you converse with)

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Oh, I'd agree totally. Didn't mean to imply otherwise.

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The guys that are typically on cnbc are usually trader types (fast money, its up 5% on wtf news get INNNNN NOWW lookatmyhair!!!)

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Love Ron Insana sitting in as an "expert".

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The post-IPO bubble era is much more stringent on the separation between research, IB, and trading desks.

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Heard a story about an intern in research having access to the IB share drive and made almost 15,000 in one summer. Guy obviously got caught and is banned from the securities world now, but still...kid's got balls, he's got shite for brains, but he's got balls.

Tocqueville link is a great example of a bunch of clowns who look like they know what their talking about and then you click on the link and go wtf brah.