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Anyone renovated or built a home as their own contractor

Posted on 7/10/19 at 9:20 am
Posted by J_Hingle
LA
Member since Jun 2013
5108 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 9:20 am
Looking into some property that’s fairly cheap and was thinking about acting as my own general contractor to save as much as I can for possible resale. Was wondering about the pros and cons, financing, and if it’s even possible while working a 9-5
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
10400 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 9:51 am to
I was there the when I was off almost every day all day and worked until like 9pm most nights.

My wife doesn't work so she was there every day running the show.

Good luck if your wife works too.
Posted by Ol boy
Member since Oct 2018
2932 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:12 am to
It is possible but will take longer due to not having someone pushing them. ( rememberer even if someone is there all the time you are not the subs priority, he knows he more than likely will never get a job from you again ) your work becomes full in work.
You will save a ton of money but will hate yourself your wife and every sub you used when it’s done.
It will take years for the experience to wear off, its been 13yrs or so now and I still don’t think I would do it again maybe at 20yr mark...
This post was edited on 7/10/19 at 10:15 am
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:32 am to
It's possible. But it's not for the inexperienced, ill-equipped, or impatient.

There are very few lenders that will allow the borrower to take draws from the construction loan. Most require a licensed GC.

We didn't save any money, but have higher-end finishes because of the "savings" from self-contracting a complete home reno.
Posted by snake2985
Member since Jan 2011
334 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:42 am to
I am on my 5th house as the GC. It takes a little work but it is certainly doable. I save the cost of the GC, about $20/SF in Baton Rouge area. The hardest part is getting subs to show up to do their work, but if you manage the work properly and give them at least a weeks heads up when they will be needed, its not too bad.

Credit Unions are great for financing these projects.

And I can't say this enough, NEVER pay anyone upfront, and NEVER pay for work that you are not satisfied with. Once they have your money, they have you by the balls.
Posted by PlanoPrivateer
Frisco, TX
Member since Jan 2004
2796 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:48 am to
quote:

There are very few lenders that will allow the borrower to take draws from the construction loan. Most require a licensed GC.


This was my experience. Wife and I built our first house on some property we had already purchased. This was 40 years ago and we could not get financing without a contractor. We had a mutual friend that signed on. We used some of his subs, some subs that we or relatives of ours knew and did some of the work ourselves. Saved a lot of money but wouldn't even try without a contractor to advise.
Posted by Ricky1962
Member since Oct 2012
163 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 8:19 pm to
I did it twice, one 15 years ago and one I just finished. You have to know construction well or you will get into many situations where things go bad. Never pay in advance and be careful when subs keep asking for draws because if they get 80% of the money and only 60% finished, they will move on to another job and leave you hanging. Get names for subs from the subs you hire. Drive by houses under construction and talk to subs or call the subs that put signs up in front of houses they are working on. They are proud of their work. Supply houses also refer subs, like the shingle distributor will give you good roofers. Drywall distributor will give you good names to hang and texture. Framer is by far the most important, closely followed by the foundation contractor.
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25466 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 7:01 am to
I’m a licensed agent and also a project manager for a high end custom builder. It can be done but it’s not for everyone. There are more moving parts during the process. If you or spouse are overly emotional people it’s not going to be worth it most of the time.

Good luck
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3796 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 7:59 am to
Just finished up my house in December as the GC.

It’s definitely not for everyone. There’s a certain level of business acumen required. You’ll be dealing with a lot of contractors who do not generally care about you or your project, and a lot of money. It’s also very beneficial to have a high level of construction experience. Familiarity with construction methods, scheduling, etc is required to properly manage the project.

Working full time will make it difficult. The ability to meet subs, walk the job, check material, etc requires time flexibility. Not including the time required to select all the finishes, options, etc.

You can also look into alternative contracting strategies. Instead of paying a GC like a typical build, you can use a consultant to simply help you manage the project. Some GCs will operate under similar setups.
Posted by braindeadboxer
Utopia
Member since Nov 2011
8742 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 11:03 am to
Knowing which subs to use and getting them when they are needed will be an issue.
Posted by Libertariantiger
Member since Nov 2012
981 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 8:56 am to
Where are you building? There are times when self contracting saves you money. High end finishes with a contactor that works on percent of mat and labor, you def come out better. But, a leveraged homebuilder that gives turnkey bids will save so much on materials, you dont save near what some people think. People that save a lot are generally people with a lot of knowledge that do high end, very custom things, that builders mark way up for time, material, and risk of redo. So it's kind of a catch 22, the more difficult and intense the build, the more you save doing self. If you do a regular custom home with nice fixtures/finishes, nice flooring, trendy stuff, you can pretty much break even when you account for time and bulk contractor discounts. I'll be 5k saved toward my fee in concrete, lumber, and shingle savings alone.
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