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re: Any day traders out there?

Posted on 10/12/22 at 8:04 am to
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
5784 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 8:04 am to
HPCO $3.47/share at 0800.
$3.54/share at 0801. 2% profit.
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10205 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 8:25 am to
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I paper traded for almost 18 months. I studied trends for 2 years.

If you had studied market tendencies for even 1 day, you would have noticed that an individual stock bought with no stop loss will sometimes stay below your entry for years, or even go to zero. This basic fact alone makes your strategy a non starter. You can hit your 2% goal 10 times, but if your 11th attempt fails you just obliterated your account.

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Again, nothing stopping anyone on here from proving me wrong.

We have, but you refuse to make the effort to comprehend what we are saying.

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The number 1 Top Gainer today was a penny stock.

99.9% of which go to zero.

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If you'd bought it at 0800 it would've sold for a 2% profit at 0805.

That's great. If you'd bought it 90 minutes later you'd be down 50% on your life savings right now.

0930 was the top on this one. Next time it could be 0800. Yes, momentum and volatility will usually give you your 2%. Let's say that's 90% of the time. The problem is you have no plan for the 10% of the time when you bought the top.

If you are hellbent on buying the top gainer every morning, using a simple 2% trailing stop would at least improve your strategy from disaster to somewhere around breakeven.

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Citadel and Melvin Capital

Not what I'm talking about. Study the successful traders. One commonality is big winners, small losers.

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I've lain out my strategy, but I don't see anyone volunteering their own.

Maybe I will when I have time. What I will say is that most people do not have the capacity to extract a consistent profit trading the markets. The 1% who do spent years studying (and losing) before they made it.
Posted by SM1010
Member since Oct 2020
760 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 11:42 am to
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If you had studied market tendencies for even 1 day, you would have noticed that an individual stock bought with no stop loss will sometimes stay below your entry for years, or even go to zero. This basic fact alone makes your strategy a non starter.


He's been ignoring responding to this the entire thread and will continue to do so.

He'll learn eventually when his account gets blown up. Not until then though.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4101 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 1:36 pm to
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If a stock falls after you buy it and never goes up 1%, which is unlikely, hold it until it does. Even if it takes a month. NEVER sell for a loss, I mean, unless you're a pussy.




At first I thought this was a troll post. Then I realized that you were being serious. Well, some people enjoy
Posted by SalE
At the beach
Member since Jan 2020
2414 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 1:49 pm to
My current status:
@ 85% cash
My winners 2022:
Shorts-
Roku
Meta- Hello Zucker
Baba- Hello Charlie Munger
Coin- Thank you Jim Chanos
Long-
DG- I want a girl that loves me like this stock..started in at 92
I trade only brands...no low priced stocks
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53003 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:22 pm to
All I do is day trade

Our country is dead so I’m trying to steal a little copper in the mudslide

Anyway what sucks most is when you’re up like 30 bucks for a second then down like 300 when you try to press sell. Hoping Putin saves us soon
Posted by Hussss
Living the Dream
Member since Oct 2016
6744 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 1:45 pm to
Cowboy, are you the one that recorded these shenanigans?

LINK
Posted by CSinLC
Member since May 2018
655 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 2:31 pm to
I am retired and day trade the futures markets. The Indexes, Gold, Crude Oil, Soybeans and such. I mostly trade the Nasdaq and S&P. The markets are open from Sunday evening until Friday afternoon. There are micro contracts that you can trade without losing your shirt.

It will take some research and practice to get profitable, if ever.
This post was edited on 10/21/22 at 11:10 pm
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
5784 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 8:55 am to
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He's been ignoring responding to this the entire thread and will continue to do so.


I haven't ignored anything. I've stated my strategy and challenged anyone here to try it. I've never sold for a loss since I started day trading. I've also never held a position longer than 12 days. It is what it is. I don't give a flying shite what you do or say about what you think is going to happen. Make money how you want.

Again, I realize trading is a personal thing and everyone has to do what they think is going to make them money.

Also, I'd like to say that those long TQQQ calls paid like a mofo.

Avg'd down on Tuesday when it was around $16.50/share.
Profited almost 40%.

Easy $$$. Like I said it was going to be.



Again this morning at 0800 CNXA was the top gainer. It was $0.36/share. It sold for a 2% profit at 0830 on the open.

Edit: It actually sold on the open for $0.378/share which was 5% profit.

Everyday. Just like clockwork.
This post was edited on 10/14/22 at 9:03 am
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
4344 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 9:31 am to
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I've stated my strategy and challenged anyone here to try it.


I'll pass. And secondly, folks who trade like this aren't trading with size.

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Put your life savings and every dollar you have plus any loans you can take out plus cash advances on all your credit cards into a mostly free trading platform like Webull or Robinhood.


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Go all in on every trade on one stock. When it goes up 1%, sell it all. If a stock falls after you buy it and never goes up 1%, which is unlikely, hold it until it does. Even if it takes a month. NEVER sell for a loss, I mean, unless you're a pussy.
There are 250 trading days in a year. The most you can make with this method is 250% of your initial investment.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
5784 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 9:44 am to
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Again, nothing stopping anyone on here from proving me wrong.

We have, but you refuse to make the effort to comprehend what we are saying.



Saying and doing are TOTALLY different things.
Words don't prove anything. It's just conjecture. I understand everything you're saying. And I'm just telling you what I do works.
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The number 1 Top Gainer today was a penny stock.

99.9% of which go to zero.

Not accurate. But I don't really care what happens to the stock once I scalp my profit. And I rarely buy anything that's less than $1.50/share, and Yes I realize that's a penny stock.
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If you'd bought it at 0800 it would've sold for a 2% profit at 0805.

That's great. If you'd bought it 90 minutes later you'd be down 50% on your life savings right now.

Right. Buying is time sensitive. I realize that. But countering a statement like "Buy at 0800" with "Yeah, but of you'd bought at 0930 you'd be down" isn't proof of anything. I didn't say buy at 0930. I said buy at 0800. At 0930, the upward movement on these daily gainers is typically over. I realize that. I've trended that. I've worked that into my buying/selling strategy.
They almost always get a boost on the open because volume increases violently on the open because people jump in to try and scalp. It doesn't matter if you understand this or not. It happens. You can take your theoretical, hypothetical analytics and save them. Of course if you change the parameters of a strategy, the outcome will change. What a stupid comment.

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You can hit your 2% goal 10 times, but if your 11th attempt fails you just obliterated your account.



You can also trade 26 trades in a row and be up close to 60% too. I've done it.
This post was edited on 10/14/22 at 9:56 am
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
5784 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 9:47 am to
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I'll pass. And secondly, folks who trade like this aren't trading with size.


Pass all you want.

Feel like sharing your trading strategy? I'm not trying to be a dick. I'd really like to hear what others do. Most people here just want to shite on someone it seems. OP asked about day traders. All I did was offered my strategy. I'd like to hear yours.
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10205 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 7:35 am to
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I didn't say buy at 0930. I said buy at 0800.

Your entire strategy is based on the assumption that the top premarket gainer can be bought at 0800 and it is impossible for it to fade and never hit your 2% sell point.

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What a stupid comment.

Couldn't have said it better.

This post was edited on 10/17/22 at 10:05 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84886 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 7:57 am to
Gideon Swashbuckler has figured out a foolproof way to make 60%+ a year…

Just saying it out loud should show you how ridiculous your assertion is.
Posted by Order88
Member since Sep 2010
54 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 8:32 am to
Gideon did you make 1-2% on RDHL ? I was able to follow your strategy and made about 15% on it. I’m trying it out lol day 1 in the books. Thank you sir !
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
5000 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 8:53 am to
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Our country is dead


Update us on your travel plans out

I'm bullish on America... wait then buy this mega dip
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53003 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 10:53 am to
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Update us on your travel plans out I'm bullish on America... wait then buy this mega dip

Yeah

I should leave

I’m not a drag queen story hour supporting Ukraine sign in my yarding real American like you
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84886 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 11:10 am to
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Gideon did you make 1-2% on RDHL ? I was able to follow your strategy and made about 15% on it. I’m trying it out lol day 1 in the books. Thank you sir !


15% on your life savings in one day? Pack it up for the year and come back next fall in that case.
Posted by SalE
At the beach
Member since Jan 2020
2414 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 11:16 am to
Earning season guys...time to make $$$...shorted NFLX early, small position 100 shares but traditionaly a good bit of shorts prior to release..big mistake as they got pushed out.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4101 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 12:31 pm to
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shorted NFLX early


Not to toss salt on the wound, but I often wonder why one wouldn’t use options to take on a risk defined bearish position, rather than taking on a position that has undefined risk. Buying puts or selling call spreads would have provided a bearish position with limited risk.

Maybe you don’t do options. So I’m just curious.
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