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Advice for a 64 year old with a 401k

Posted on 3/9/20 at 7:51 am
Posted by Allthatfades
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 3/9/20 at 7:51 am
My dad has a 401k with his company and his planning to retire next February when he turns 65. Has about 400,000 in 401k or at least he did before the last couple weeks. He’s in a panic now and wants to get it all out and put it on a CD. My thinking was since he’s already took a hit and he’s not retiring to next year that he should ride it out. But with this oil news now, I’m starting to rethink that. Any advice?
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42560 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 7:52 am to
Just wait until after the election. He should be fine. The worst thing to do is sell low
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 3/9/20 at 7:53 am to
He has to have more than just that $400k for retirement right? A pension or something?
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42560 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 7:56 am to
If he was making in the 40/50k per year range; that's pretty good. He didnt have access to a 401k early in his career.
Posted by iknowmorethanyou
Paydirt
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 3/9/20 at 7:59 am to
The sobering reality is that 400k is SIGNIFICANTLY more than most retire with.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/9/20 at 8:03 am to
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The sobering reality is that 400k is SIGNIFICANTLY more than most retire with.



True. My 401k has lost all my gains from 2019, or almost all of them. Luckily I have a few years left, but I am starting to think that the next good run we have, I might have to start getting more conservative sooner.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42560 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 8:05 am to
I think rule of thumb is find a lower risk landing spot about 5 years from retirement.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24139 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 8:05 am to
Clearly, he wasn’t in the right risk adjusted investments. However, he’s already taken it on the chin. He needs to wait this out. Taking out his funds is a recipe for failure.
Posted by castorinho
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/9/20 at 8:08 am to
quote:

Clearly, he wasn’t in the right risk adjusted investments. However, he’s already taken it on the chin. He needs to wait this out. Taking out his funds is a recipe for failure.

pretty much this. At this point he needs to ride it out.
Posted by bstew3006
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/9/20 at 8:19 am to
DO NOT GET OUT

He just needs to ride the storm, this will correct well before next Feb. Creating a huge buying opportunity.
Posted by B4YOU
Member since May 2018
344 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 8:35 am to
What’s his allocation? Does he work in the oil sector? I think we will see a lot of people postponing retirement. 70 is the new 60? If he is all stock then he should not sell and see where the market is next year, but be prepared to work two more years.
Posted by Allthatfades
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2014
6698 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 8:55 am to
He works a factory job. He’s never made above 35-40,000 his whole life. He’s been maxing it out the last few years. He does have a pension also. And also several CD’s in bank
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42560 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 9:02 am to
He is good. Tell him to sit on his hands. Go fishing. Do not watch the news.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 9:12 am to
All good advice here to just stay in the market and don't do anything.

Another way to look at it:

5% of $400k is $20k/year

5% of $300k is $15k/year


The delta between the two is ~$400/mo. He should be able to manage that reduction in monthly income, or make it up with a small side-gig for a few years.
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/9/20 at 9:23 am to
My parents retired with 300k and they are doing fine.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/9/20 at 9:25 am to
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He’s in a panic now and wants to get it all out and put it on a CD.


Your dad is too dumb to retire if he sells now
Posted by castorinho
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/9/20 at 9:33 am to
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Your dad is too dumb to retire if he sells now
is that really necessary?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/9/20 at 9:38 am to
Sorry. That was harsh.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42560 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 9:40 am to
This isnt the OT and that was not called for. OPs dad is in great shape to retire.
Posted by SalE
At the beach
Member since Jan 2020
2411 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 9:43 am to
Just hang in...
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