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Posted on 1/8/20 at 5:48 pm
Posted by bluewing
south
Member since Jun 2013
129 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 5:48 pm
currently have 300,000 in 401k. Company recently added roth to list of options.. Should i continue to contribute pre-tax or switch to roth. have about 15 years till retirement.
Posted by EveryoneGetsATrophy
Member since Nov 2017
2907 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 6:08 pm to
Pre-tax.
Posted by Prix560
Member since Jan 2008
958 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:03 pm to
I was advised about 5 years ago to meet the minimum of the 401k, and then flood my Roth. The advisor told me that many of his clients cant really dig into the 401k without getting a huge tax hit. The Roth will allow for a larger sum upfront while living off of the 401k.

I'm putting 11% 401k and 15% Roth.
Posted by BamaAlum02
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2005
1010 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:23 pm to
I would split contributions between the two. That way you have options.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18005 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 6:53 am to
What age are you wanting to retire at?

Do you expect to have a higher income, lower income or the same income level when you retire?

Do you think in general that income tax rates will go up or down in the future?
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4112 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 8:03 am to
IMO, you have enough time left (just) to begin hitting the Roth hard, and that should result in you having a decent balance between the two.
Posted by Brummy
Central, LA
Member since Oct 2009
4505 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 11:40 am to
Does your company provide a matching contribution? If so, the match portion would already be on a pretax basis, meaning you could still maintain a certain amount of tax diversification going forward even if you contribute 100% towards the Roth.
Posted by bluewing
south
Member since Jun 2013
129 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 1:46 am to
yes company matches up to 5%
Posted by LSU6262
Member since Jun 2008
7493 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 5:41 am to
All my contributions go into Roth 401k
Posted by GCTigahs
Member since Oct 2014
2038 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 8:21 am to
For those that have switched or split between a regular 401k to a Roth 401k, have you seen a change in your take home pay and/or taxes at the end of the yr? I just started splitting this year but I’m hesitant to put more into the Roth until I see what it does to me come tax time next yr.
This post was edited on 1/10/20 at 8:47 am
Posted by LSU6262
Member since Jun 2008
7493 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 8:29 am to
quote:

change in your take hom


Your take home pay is lower with a Roth 401k
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18005 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 8:37 am to
quote:

For those that have switched or split between a regular 401k to a Roth 401k, have you seen a change in your take home pay and/or taxes at the end of the yr? I just started splitting this year but I’m hesitant to put more into the Roth until I see what it does to me come tax time next yr.


That is easy to calculate. Use your highest marginal tax rate to do the calculation.

For example:
- $5,000 to 401k previously = zero taxes
- $2,500 to 401k = zero taxes
- $2,500 to roth 401k = $705 in taxes (assuming 22% marginal tax rate)

If you don't want your take home pay to change, reduce the Roth contribution so that your Roth + taxes = the amount you reduced the traditional by.
This post was edited on 1/10/20 at 8:40 am
Posted by ComebackEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2020
29 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 4:50 pm to
My understanding is that maxing the Roth first is the better choice for people expecting to be in a higher retirement income tax bracket. Maxing the 401K first is a better choice for those not expecting to pay a lot of retirement income tax.
Posted by wasteland
City of peace
Member since Apr 2011
5600 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 6:51 pm to
Be sure to get any match offered because some don’t match on the Roth side. Then put 50-100% toward Roth account.

Taxes will be higher than current rates at some point and will have ability to control you’re tax rate with Roth distributions
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