- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Wow...Lee vs Stafford
Posted on 11/10/08 at 7:04 pm to LSUshad
Posted on 11/10/08 at 7:04 pm to LSUshad
quote:
Negatiger
Why does everyone assume that he will become like Stafford, or that he will get better. There is another talented young man on the team and more coming, so why do we have to rely on this guy? Lee would have had more interceptions if some of those passes were not thrown in the dirt, but I guess that was his stategy to avoid interceptions.
1
Posted on 11/10/08 at 7:09 pm to SuperD AP
quote:
Why does everyone assume that he will become like Stafford, or that he will get better.
It works the same way as how people are assuming that JJ could have just jogged onto the field Sat. night against the Bama defense and not possibly done any worse than Jarrett Lee was doing. Human nature. You think that it couldn't possibly be worse than it is, and you just KNOW that anything different will be better!
Posted on 11/10/08 at 7:10 pm to RepublicGold
quote:
just pointing out the numbers.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 7:12 pm to LSUmomma
I think the point about JJ is that Lee showed beyond a doubt he wasn't helping the team. The announcers knew it, the fans knew it - both LSU and Bama and outsiders, too - and we didn't pull the trigger.
That's okay. But why play JJ 5 plays at the end of Tulane. It seems like a big cluster-f to me.
That's okay. But why play JJ 5 plays at the end of Tulane. It seems like a big cluster-f to me.
This post was edited on 11/10/08 at 7:16 pm
Posted on 11/10/08 at 7:25 pm to Hasan
quote:
Maybe Georgia's offense is better at tackling.
No shite. The offense are still football players. Make a fricking tackle for once. EVERYONE QB THROWS INTERCEPTIONS.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 7:32 pm to BamaScoop
quote:
His confidence is one of the things he liked. He keeps throwing it in there even when it looks bad. He is not scared to make the decision to throw the ball and that is good.
more like his chicken-ness is prevalent.
he throws into these double and triple coverages b/c he doens't want to get hit.
he thinks it's better to just get rid of it than to take the sack or try to run.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 7:33 pm to drizztiger
quote:
and we didn't pull the trigger.
On what?
quote:
I think the point about JJ is that Lee showed beyond a doubt he wasn't helping the team. The announcers knew it, the fans knew it - both LSU and Bama and outsiders, too - and we didn't pull the trigger.
Jarrett had "helped" the team to scoring 21 points... He wasn't stellar, but my point is that people assume that JJ wouldn't have made a bad situation worse. We were in the game ALL NIGHT!! It could have been worse!
quote:
That's okay. But why play JJ 5 plays at the end of Tulane. It seems like a big cluster-f to me.
I believe that they KNEW is was going to have to all Jarrett, all the time for the bamma game once Hatch's leg put him out of the picture. They wanted to give JL all the game snaps they could, and they did, until the BOOOOO birds started making that more detrimental than educational....
so, at the very end, just to keep JL, (an LSU player!!!!!) from going out into a HOSTILE Tiger Stadium.. they thought it'd be better for Lee to not get any more snaps.
jmo..... .05, don't bother with the change.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 8:01 pm to LSUmomma
quote:
On what?
Putting JJ in the game. Miles mentioned thoughts about it also.
quote:
Jarrett had "helped" the team to scoring 21 points... He wasn't stellar, but my point is that people assume that JJ wouldn't have made a bad situation worse. We were in the game ALL NIGHT!! It could have been worse!
Jarrett benefited from a running game that produced 200+ yards against a team allowing 65 per game. Lee did not keep us in the game. If you think he did, you are not being objective in any sense.
quote:
They wanted to give JL all the game snaps they could, and they did, until the BOOOOO birds started making that more detrimental than educational....
Lee isn't learning a lot on the field. Hostile home crowds have nothing to do with that. And they certainly didn't cause the OT interception in any way. Lee at this point may benefit more by seeing some series from the sideline.
I am not throwing Lee under the bus in any way, but simply dismissing every other option isn't productive. The coaches didn't dismiss the idea of JJ, but they really haven't set themselves up to be able to put him in the game.
My wife's grandmother's funeral was Saturday and I ended up having to watch the game with objective fans from across the country. They were dumbfounded at Lee continuing to throw the ball and asked me, "Why keep him in and why keep throwing?" Not everyone that thinks we should either 1) have someone else capable to take a snap or 2) not throw 34 passes with a struggling QB and effective rush game is somehow a mystical negatiger that hates LSU.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 8:09 pm to drizztiger
quote:
Not everyone that thinks we should either 1) have someone else capable to take a snap or 2) not throw 34 passes with a struggling QB and effective rush game is somehow a mystical negatiger that hates LSU.
1.) By long term "planning", this was supposed to be Lee's year to maybe sniff the field for total mop up duty, or if Lighting struck the practice facility, killing QB's 1 and 2-- I think they have the people they have as ready as they could possible have them. You realize there were only TWO QB suited up for LSU in the game, right (NONE with ANY real experienc)? That's not something the coaches can usually expect!
2.) I addressed the "open" play calling in anothe thread, I believe. I feel like it was somewhat of a double edged sword, in that Lil Nicky was surely expecting us to lock it down and run, and when we didn't it made it more POSSIBLE to run when we did. And then, Jarret would complete just enough passes to keep them honest, But that risky play calling is eventually what allowed JL to stab us all in the heart on our last offensive play. ( I put that more on the coaches than on the kid)
Posted on 11/10/08 at 8:11 pm to LSUmomma
:beatdeadhorse:
Jarrett Lee's overthrows are legendary.
Jarrett Lee's overthrows are legendary.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 8:14 pm to drizztiger
quote:
Jarrett benefited from a running game that produced 200+ yards against a team allowing 65 per game. Lee did not keep us in the game. If you think he did, you are not being objective in any sense.
The running game benefited from the passing that Lee did make (and the recievers didn't drop!!)
if you don't think that the fact that our coaches kept the passing game on the table had something to do with the fact that the running game was effective, then YOU are not being objective at all either!
Maybe the bama fans all wanted Lee to keep throwing, but believe me, Nick was over there salivating at the thought that LSU would stop any air attack and go to ground with his defense!
That's more of what we did in the 3rd quarter, and it was the only time we failed to put any points on the board......
Posted on 11/10/08 at 8:17 pm to LSUmomma
an INT is an INT. why is a pick 6 looked down upon so much more than a regular interception? I'm not understanding the relevance here. Does that mean Georgia's offense could tackle better?
Could someone explain this to me?
Could someone explain this to me?
Posted on 11/10/08 at 8:19 pm to LSUmomma
quote:
if you don't think that the fact that our coaches kept the passing game on the table had something to do with the fact that the running game was effective, then YOU are not being objective at all either!
Maybe the bama fans all wanted Lee to keep throwing, but believe me, Nick was over there salivating at the thought that LSU would stop any air attack and go to ground with his defense!
Exactly why teams facing Nebraska in the 90s wanted them to run and teams facing Texas Tech in the 00s want them to pass - because they know what they're going to do.
Okay.
Now stop it.
The only thing that is stopping LSU's offense is LSU's offense. It's pretty much been that way all year long.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 8:19 pm to Prominentwon
quote:
Could someone explain this to me?
ok. i'll explain it to ya, if you explain your avatar first.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 8:20 pm to Prominentwon
quote:
an INT is an INT. why is a pick 6 looked down upon so much more than a regular interception? I'm not understanding the relevance here
For the love of all that is good and holy, I don't know..
I think it just makes them feel better for bashing a 19 year old kid, who's job it is to make them feel all "sporty and proud" on Sat. and when he fails then they have nothing to make them feel better about themselves, so HE MUST PAY!!
Posted on 11/10/08 at 8:21 pm to Bob Stone
quote:
Jesus Christ is perfect but if he played football
at LSU He could not please the rantards
I do know he can't hit a curve ball.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 8:22 pm to Klaus
quote:
ok. i'll explain it to ya, if you explain your avatar first.
I just have it for the sheer creepiness.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 8:22 pm to Prominentwon
quote:
an INT is an INT
This is true. The pick-6s are just an anomaly.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 8:29 pm to drizztiger
he wont be as good as stafford. stafford was a true freshman, lee is not. according to all you (who i believe in this facet), lsu is stacked all around him this year. uga was not stacked around stafford his freshman year. lee doesnt have the arm or true ability stafford does.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 8:34 pm to RepublicGold
ill plead the 5th on this one.,to be continued!
Page 4 of 5
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News