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Would Maason Smith had gotten injured on grass?

Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:31 am
Posted by Safety Blitz
The Backfield
Member since May 2022
1861 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:31 am
I saw OBJ making the argument of the danger of turf fields. Got me thinking that the turf on the dome had to have an effect on Mason’s non contact injury.

Maybe another reason to avoid these neutral site games in domed environments.
Posted by Harry Morgan
Member since Sep 2019
9193 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:32 am to
Probably not on a chewable.
Posted by Slippy
Across the rivah
Member since Aug 2005
6584 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:33 am to
Blew my ACL on a grass field in HS.

So of course he could have.
Posted by Big Gorilla
Bossier City
Member since Oct 2020
5459 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:33 am to
It was a really freak thing. All he did was jump and celebrate. Doubt grass/turf would matter. I could see if he his cleat got caught or something, but it was a freakish injury. Praying for a 100% recovery.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
7878 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:34 am to
Nobody knows man. People tear their ACL's on grass all the time as well.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38235 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:34 am to
Wouldn’t it have gone at some point anyway? It wasn’t really anything catastrophic he did to the knee so it seems like it would have tore at some point regardless
Posted by 0x15E
Outer Space
Member since Sep 2020
12740 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:34 am to
A baw that size was going to have that injury eventually.
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
15821 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:36 am to
100% inaccurate
Posted by Springlake Tiger
Uptown
Member since Aug 2006
15531 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:37 am to
I wouldn’t be shocked if that ligament was already partially torn before the celebration and that just finished it off
Posted by athletemed
The Woodlands, Texas
Member since Oct 2007
5871 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:38 am to
There is a lot involved in the mechanism of injury for tearing an ACL in non-contact situations. The science behind the modern turf shoe "cleat" is all designed to maintain as much surface contact with the turf until the last possible second of the next movement. So if a player plants his leg into the turf its gonna stay there until they lift their leg up and out.

So its not the turf but the shoe as well.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53850 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:38 am to
Impossible to know

quote:

Maybe another reason to avoid these neutral site games in domed environments.


As much as I love these neutral site games are fading out for LSU here soon, this is not one of the reasons I am behind it. Injuries can happen anywhere, ask Myles Brennan
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
14838 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:53 am to
No idea, but if I were an ortho I’d be trying to come up with some kind of minimally-invasive prophylactic procedure where the ligament can be strengthened so it doesn’t tear at all.

The doc who comes up with this for the ACL and PCL is going to be a billionaire.
Posted by Springlake Tiger
Uptown
Member since Aug 2006
15531 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:58 am to
I was thinking about this too. Develop some laparoscopic procedure where they replace your acl with a new acl made from a medical grade rubber.
Posted by Tiger on the Rag
Cattle Gap Egypt
Member since Jan 2018
6837 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:59 am to
yes, because the turf did not injure him. The jumping up in the air celebration injured him.
Posted by HTX_LSU
Member since Oct 2018
2175 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 11:00 am to
quote:

could see if he his cleat got caught or something,


but that's most likely what happened, he jumped and prob a little forwards so his feet had to push back a little and his cleat prob did catch in the turf, on grass its a lot less forgiving and he might've just took a chunk of grass out of the ground but turf won't budge
Posted by TigersWin3535
Member since Sep 2022
262 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 11:05 am to
The weight is what makes injury’s for lineman so frequently!
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26645 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 11:08 am to
The guy landed slightly off balance. That's all there was too it. Turf, grass, wood floor, sand - none of that would have made a difference.

They used to have a flag football game at the Pro Bowl. It was discontinued after a guy completely wrecked his knee on the beach.

It was simply a freak accident - like Brennan breaking his arm doing something he's probably done dozens of times before.
Posted by BlackAngus
350 Sonic Blvd
Member since Jan 2020
1964 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 11:19 am to
I feel like those knee braces should be just as much to blame.
Posted by salty1
Member since Jun 2015
4430 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 11:20 am to
There are video compilations out there with literally a 100 guys getting hurt “celebrating”. You would think they’d figure out that it isn’t worth the risk. I cringe every time I see a lineman lift a WR or RB in the air after a TD. Linemen jumping up in the air celebrating a big play seems just as stupid. As a coach, I’d beg my guys to play smart and try to avoid the silly, self-inflicted, injuries.
Posted by BadaBingBadaBoom
Lafourche Parish
Member since Mar 2022
1995 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 11:21 am to
Maybe, but he sure would have been high as frick
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