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re: Would Lane Kiffin make that much of a difference
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:33 pm to Goldrush25
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:33 pm to Goldrush25
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Those things actually happened didn't they?
The off the field drama has actually happened with Kiffin as well, right? But youur stance was you can't stand him personally but "aren't a teenage girl" and can separate yourself from them. So are you a teenage girl when it comes to Orgeron in separating your personal feelings of him? I would say, no you aren't, because you have basically been arguing all day every day with the same talking points for a year now.
This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 12:36 pm
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Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:33 pm to BilJ
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I would take him over O no questions asked.
You are an idiot, no questions asked.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:35 pm to Tiger Ree
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And was fired the season after the next year. After the 10-2 season his team was ranked #1 pre-season and wound up unranked.
Do you really want that at LSU? Do you really want Joey Freshwater leading the LSU program?
Far from my first choice but I’d take him over O.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:35 pm to lsufball19
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The off the field drama has actually happened with Kiffin as well, right?
Yep.
I'm just wondering where exactly does O break the tie in your mind as far as being a coach you'd rather have. What does he do better than Kiffin?
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:35 pm to Goldrush25
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Ah, I see, but then you'll point to 9-4 at LSU and say "see, O is better than he was at OM."
I’m only responding to see how you will bring up Orgeron again.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:36 pm to Goldrush25
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I'm just wondering where exactly does O break the tie in your mind as far as being a coach you'd rather have. What does he do better than Kiffin?
I said neither coach was any more than marginally better than the other. Orgeron is already the coach here. As such, I don't need to argue why he should be hired. Conversely, I can argue why Kiffin shouldn't be hired to replace Orgeron because it would be a lateral hire, at best.
This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:37 pm to Goldrush25
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Compared to what we have now, yes. And I can't stand the guy personally. I'm just not a teenage girl, I'm able to separate my emotions from the issue.
Well your emotions are very stupid. Joey lost 7 of his last 11. Eaux took over and did much better than Freshwater.
Teenage girls have much more sense than you. Don't try to compare them and your horrible reasoning. They would look at the numbers and know that you are a stupid prognosticator. Joey is the man !!!
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:37 pm to SammyTiger
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I think They fired him too soon. Went 3-2 and lost to Leach and A 10 win ASU team. Reminds me of Les. Talented team loses to 2 underrated opponents and gets canned.
I don’t know exactly what happen but I imagine he got fired because he is an a-hole that is difficult to work with
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:39 pm to Goldrush25
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I'm able to separate my emotions from the issue.
Lol
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:40 pm to Tiger Ree
quote:kiffin improved FAU dramatically. can’t say O improved LSU at all.
aux took over and did much better than Freshwater.
This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:43 pm to lsufball19
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I said neither coach was any more than marginally better than the other. Orgeron is already the coach here. As such, I don't need to argue why he should be hired. Conversely, I can argue why Kiffin shouldn't be hired to replace Orgeron because it would be a lateral hire, at best
Well I guess we deserve Orgeron if this type of sentiment is pervasive around the decision makers.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:43 pm to Tiger Ree
in no way what so ever does O have a betters resume than Kiffin, you sir are a fricking moron if you believe otherwise.
Let's even put aside being a head coach. How many programs has O even been deemed worthy enough to run his own defense?
Let's even put aside being a head coach. How many programs has O even been deemed worthy enough to run his own defense?
This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:50 pm to Tiger Ree
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Eaux takes over the same team, staff, etc and goes 5-2, national ranking and bowl game.
An interim head coach is nothing more than a shot of adrenaline. That's all it is. Orgeron's just been lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time, TWICE.
He was also fortunate enough for it to happen at two programs that had good assistant coaches and above average players.
But if you think he could do the same thing at a program like Kansas or Oregon State, I think you'd be disappointed.
But then again, we've all seen your pro-o posts over the past year or so, so I'm guessing that you believe he could take over one of those type of programs and do with them, the same thing he was able to do for USC and LSU.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:50 pm to BilJ
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Let's even put aside being a coach. How many programs has O even been deemed worthy enough to run his own defense?
LSU
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:54 pm to earl keese
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An interim head coach is nothing more than a shot of adrenaline. That's all it is. Orgeron's just been lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time, TWICE.
Name all the other interim coaches. I'll wait a long time for your response.
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He was also fortunate enough for it to happen at two programs that had good assistant coaches and above average players
So did the coaches that got fired.
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But if you think he could do the same thing at a program like Kansas or Oregon State, I think you'd be disappointed.
Like Ole miss over a decade ago?
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But then again, we've all seen your pro-o posts over the past year or so, so I'm guessing that you believe he could take over one of those type of programs and do with them, the same thing he was able to do for USC and LSU.
Is there any evidence to suggest otherwise? Let me know.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 1:03 pm to Goldrush25
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Well I guess we deserve Orgeron if this type of sentiment is pervasive around the decision makers.
So is it your stance that it would be a good move to fire Orgeron and hire Lane Kiffin?
Posted on 4/23/18 at 1:07 pm to lsufball19
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So is it your stance that it would be a good move to fire Orgeron and hire Lane Kiffin?
There's no fewer than 10 coaches I'd want before Kiffin. But gun to my head, I take Kiffin over Orgeron 10 times out of 10. And I think he'd have LSU in better shape overall.
I dunno, I just have this apparently weird quality that compels me to hold coaches with actual acumen in higher regard than those that lack it. I actually believe that knowing the game of football is important to a team's success.
This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 4/23/18 at 1:08 pm to earl keese
I forgot who said it but it went something like "Coach O is the world's best interim coach and the worst head coach ever"
Posted on 4/23/18 at 1:12 pm to Goldrush25
Joey Freshwater bitch. He is the greatest coach of all time. Saban was lucky to have him as his OC and has never done shite before or after Joey.
Freshwater is the BEST EVER.
Freshwater is the BEST EVER.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 1:18 pm to Tiger Ree
Better than Orgeron, though I readily admit that's not a difficult standard to surpass.
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