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re: Would Lane Kiffin make that much of a difference
Posted on 4/23/18 at 11:36 am to Tiger Ree
Posted on 4/23/18 at 11:36 am to Tiger Ree
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Well, he was intelligent enough that NO ONE knows about it. Oh wait, everyone knows and he is divorced now so it's Joey to the Max. He even takes pictures of him and the coeds at the bars for social media sites.
No sure why you think this makes him look better
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I'm starting to like the guy. He is my number one celebrity I would want to party with. Joey Freshwater is an "aminal" baby !!!
I like him too because he's an entertaining troll, but that doesn't mean I want him coaching the football program. I think it's odd that the same people who think Orgeron is unqualified, which there is a good argument he is, are also advocating for Lane Kiffin, as if that would be anything more than marginally better, if any.
This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 11:36 am
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Posted on 4/23/18 at 11:37 am to Tiger Ree
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Did you expect a national championship in his first season?
He said it. Why is it wrong to hold him to what he said?
Posted on 4/23/18 at 11:37 am to Goldrush25
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A guy with history of assault doesn't exactly get the benefit of the doubt when he's behaving aggressively towards people.
A guy without any transgressions in nearly 30 years does get more of a benefit of the doubt. You seem to want to act like this occurred last week. Let's take you, for example. Do you think it would be fair to say you are not the same person now that you were 10 years ago, much less 30, if you were even alive 30 years ago?
This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 11:38 am
Posted on 4/23/18 at 11:37 am to lsufball19
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I think it's odd that the same people who think Orgeron is unqualified, which there is a good argument he is, are also advocating for Lane Kiffin, as if that would be anything more than marginally better, if any.
You think Kiffin and Orgeron are the same caliber of coach?
Posted on 4/23/18 at 11:38 am to Goldrush25
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You think Kiffin and Orgeron are the same caliber of coach?
Did I say they were or do you want to keep building strawmen arguments? I said he may only be marginally better. Kiffin has had issues of immaturity at every job he's had and continues with every tweet he makes. He's never built and maintained a good football program at any job he's had.
This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 11:41 am
Posted on 4/23/18 at 11:38 am to Goldrush25
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People can't make a case for Orgeron without bringing up off-field stuff because his on field results pale in comparison to most.
There is no need to make a case for Orgeron. He already has the job. The case needs to be made for kiffin. It’s the title of the thread.
When comparing the 2, we realize that if we were choosing between them exclusively, then we have already failed. Black marks cover both of their resumes.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 11:39 am to Goldrush25
quote:no shite. It’s incredibly sad to have a coach that has shown violence against women in his past leading the team.
guy with history of assault doesn't exactly get the benefit of the doubt when he's behaving aggressively towards peopl
Posted on 4/23/18 at 11:40 am to lsufball19
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Did I say they were or do you want to keep building strawmen arguments?
Fine, I'll rephrase, you said this.
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are also advocating for Lane Kiffin, as if that would be anything more than marginally better, if any.
So you believe Kiffin is only a marginally better coach than Orgeron?
Posted on 4/23/18 at 11:41 am to Goldrush25
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You think Kiffin and Orgeron are the same caliber of coach?
Hell NO !@!!
One coaches and trolls the internet at FAU. Thank God he got the job or he would be the OC at LSU. And not because I don't think he is a good OC.
The other is the head coach at LSU.
No comparison.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 11:41 am to OceanMan
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When comparing the 2, we realize that if we were choosing between them exclusively, then we have already failed. Black marks cover both of their resumes.
Well, one's black marks are mainly for performance. The other's marks are for off field issues.
I thought we were discussing performance. In that regard, O does not compare to Kiffin.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 11:42 am to Roux58
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Is a Cal. liberal and would Alienate our fanbase.
Good. We need higher class fans.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 11:43 am to burke985
He would make a big difference. He would be able to recruit QBs and our offence would not look like it was stuck in neutral all the time.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 11:44 am to Goldrush25
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So you believe Kiffin is only a marginally better coach than Orgeron?
As a head coach and as of today, yes. He knows offensive football Xs and Os but he has a long way to go to show he's mature enough to run a program. All but a handful of his recruits at TN were out of the program for off the field incidents within a year or two of him leaving the program. UT was placed on probation for transgressions under Kiffin. He was fired at USC. He was fired during the CFP at Alabama. He now has the opportunity to show he's grown, and while his record was good last year, he still has to show that he can sustain that success and also show P5 programs that he'snot going to be a problem off the field. And the more he continues to troll the college football world on twitter, he's not exactly exuding a lot of confidence in that regard to P5 ADs across the country.
This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 11:45 am
Posted on 4/23/18 at 11:44 am to Goldrush25
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does not compare to Kiffin.
RIGHT !!!!
Eaux wins by a landslide in the best comparison that could ever be made in the coaching profession.
One coach fired at the airport, other coach takes over and leads team to a winning season, national ranking and a bowl game.
This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 11:45 am
Posted on 4/23/18 at 11:45 am to Goldrush25
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Well, one's black marks are mainly for performance. The other's marks are for off field issues.
Wait which one is which?
Posted on 4/23/18 at 11:48 am to OceanMan
Kiffin has clearly been the better coach in terms of performance.
But if people somehow think that they're comparable in ability then this will be a fruitless discussion. I actually don't know how you can look at the resumes and think they're close.
But if people somehow think that they're comparable in ability then this will be a fruitless discussion. I actually don't know how you can look at the resumes and think they're close.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 11:49 am to Goldrush25
dp
This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 11:50 am
Posted on 4/23/18 at 11:53 am to Tiger Ree
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Eaux wins by a landslide in the best comparison that could ever be made in the coaching profession.
It'll be a glorious day when O's put out on his arse and we never have to hear from you again.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 11:54 am to Roux58
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Ed Orgeron is the least qualified, and possibly the worst candidate L.S.U. could consider.
FIFY
Posted on 4/23/18 at 11:56 am to Goldrush25
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Kiffin has clearly been the better coach in terms of performance. But if people somehow think that they're comparable in ability then this will be a fruitless discussion. I actually don't know how you can look at the resumes and think they're close.
Kiffin has been fired in dramatic fashion during the season in every major job he has had (well except UT, where he left the team in horrible shape). If you are unable to accept that, then yeah I’d agree this is a fruitless discussion.
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