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re: Woodys failures need to be studied
Posted on 11/10/25 at 3:00 pm to Solo Cam
Posted on 11/10/25 at 3:00 pm to Solo Cam
"Atrocious, hilariously bad contract...."? According to Gordon Mckernan, in his interview with MM, LSU's BOS gave him a list of head coaches to contact / offer and the BOS gave him the amount to offer as well According to GM, SW had nothing to do with the contract details. Same at A&M, he had nothing to do with Jimbo's extension.
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 3:03 pm to extremelsu
quote:minor program overall, although admittedly more important at LSU
gave life to the baseball program
quote:many coaches have great resumes, but still aren't the right fit. It's the AD's job to figure that out before giving them long, huge contracts.
BK was one thr biggest coaching pulls ever. mcmahon also has a great resume.
quote:true, but Woody failed at the two biggest ones. And also failed at A&M by giving him that massive initial contract.
Theres not an AD out there that hasnt made a bad hire
Posted on 11/10/25 at 3:04 pm to Alt26
quote:
Ironically, Woodward's best hire (Jay Johnson) was one where he was forced to go beyond the "best on paper" hire. The initial target was Vitello with a truckload of money, followed very closely by Kevin O'Sullivan.
Vitello never got a call.
Posted on 11/10/25 at 3:07 pm to Keltic Tiger
quote:you're playing word games.
Same at A&M, he had nothing to do with Jimbo's extension.
Woodward gave Jimbo the initial huge 10-year, $75 million contract, which was absurd even at that time.
Posted on 11/10/25 at 3:22 pm to The Hurricane
quote:
You sound like a huge dry vagina.
FIFY
Posted on 11/10/25 at 3:45 pm to cajuntiger1010
quote:
Put LSU and A&M programs in the same spot by offering massive guaranteed contracts to dinosaurs.
WHY do so many people here utterly ignore that BK’s contract wasn’t made by SW in a vacuum?? An entire Board and others had to agree to it as well.
Posted on 11/10/25 at 3:45 pm to ColtTiger247
McMahon and Kelly were bad hires in retrospect, but hardly lasting legacy bad. I think the decision to retain McMahon after last season was his worst decision. All of this vitriol over him is a bit extreme and projects as tantrums over an underperforming football season.
Posted on 11/10/25 at 3:48 pm to Folsom
You would still have to pay him. Same financial outcome with a malcontent working in the department. Doesn’t sound good to me.
Posted on 11/10/25 at 3:54 pm to Alt26
quote:
Woodward's best hire (Jay Johnson) was one where he was forced to go beyond the "best on paper" hire. The initial target was Vitello with a truckload of money, followed very closely by Kevin O'Sullivan.
This is not true.
Everyone makes things up to crap on Scott.
He did a great job as AD. If a contract pisses you off, get over it.
This post was edited on 11/10/25 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 11/10/25 at 3:55 pm to cajuntiger1010
quote:My point was Kim Mulkey might be the most conservative coach in college athletics and no one likes Brian Kelly (who had his own issues at Notre Dame).
Local journos suck arse sans Jacque Doucet and Shea Dixon
OP is retarded and genuinely thinks that "USA Today Journos" had an influence on anything.
Also - Hunt Palmer, Michael Cauble, and John Eads belong in the Jacques/Shea tier. 5 for 5 some might even call it.
Posted on 11/10/25 at 3:57 pm to Alt26
quote:Isn't it pretty proven that we (especially the basketball program) lacked adequate funds to utilize the transfer portal?
reluctant to accept the transient nature of college players today.
quote:O'Sullivan was not no. 2 on the list.
The initial target was Vitello with a truckload of money, followed very closely by Kevin O'Sullivan. Both, for one reason or another, ended up not working out.
Posted on 11/10/25 at 3:58 pm to foghat
quote:
Please do not post anymore.
hit a nerve?
read this it will hit even harder
LINK
quote:
Woodward wasn’t simply the athletic face of Louisiana’s flagship university — he was a fixture in Baton Rouge’s old political guard. A registered Democrat and protégé of James Carville, Woodward was handpicked for the LSU job in 2019 by then-Governor John Bel Edwards. His arrival symbolized the continuation of a familiar order — one where the upper ranks of LSU operated as an extension of the state’s entrenched political establishment rather than a reflection of its people.
good riddance.
Posted on 11/10/25 at 3:58 pm to Folsom
quote:
Scott McKay just posted this on Facebook Scott Woodward was advised to reassign Brian Kelly within the athletic department rather than fire him, because firing him triggered his buyout and wasted LSU's leverage. Woodward ignored that advice and fired Kelly, triggering the buyout.
First time hearing that. Pretty big frick up if true. But what would BK have been reassigned to do? Wouldn’t he still be getting paid regardless?
Posted on 11/10/25 at 4:00 pm to atltiger6487
quote:If that's what it took to get a national title winning coach, and that's what the boosters were willing to pay, then what is the problem?
Woodward gave Jimbo the initial huge 10-year, $75 million contract, which was absurd even at that time.
If the boosters said "go out and get the best coach you possibly can, we will pay $75 million for him" then why is it the ADs fault? Because that's how these things go. No one ever gives an answer to that question.
Posted on 11/10/25 at 4:01 pm to PP7 for heisman
quote:
Huh did something happen that put the basketball program in a bad place?
He fired the winning coach over a bunch of mean articles from Pat Forde. Then, when it turned out that all of those articles were much ado about nothing, refused to hire him back despite the replacement coach being the worst mens basketball coach we've ever had, and the former coach going on to immediate success at a nearly hopeless program while expressing a desire to return to LSU. Not only did Scott double down when he was wrong, but continued to triple and quadrouple down.
If LSU loses tonight in an empty arena to UNO, I would be less surprised than if LSU were to win tonight by more than 20.
Posted on 11/10/25 at 4:02 pm to atltiger6487
You have NO idea what transpired at A&M. You do not know the people that were involved in that contract either. People thinking that one man made all these decisions by himself are just asinine. $75 million of other people’s money and Woodward did that by himself.
Posted on 11/10/25 at 4:04 pm to Havoc
Scott McKay knows nothing lol.
Kelly (1) would not accept a "reassignment of position" which is not something that is ever done in these situations; and (2) was fired the moment he told Woodward to frick off on Sunday morning.
LSU would have the exact same amount of "leverage" if they "reassigned him within the athletic department" (again, not a real thing) that they do now. If he got "reassigned" he would just be getting his full paycheck regardless.
Kelly (1) would not accept a "reassignment of position" which is not something that is ever done in these situations; and (2) was fired the moment he told Woodward to frick off on Sunday morning.
LSU would have the exact same amount of "leverage" if they "reassigned him within the athletic department" (again, not a real thing) that they do now. If he got "reassigned" he would just be getting his full paycheck regardless.
Posted on 11/10/25 at 4:06 pm to kingbob
quote:
He fired the winning coach over a bunch of mean articles from Pat Forde.
Yeah he fired Wade in 2022 because of some Pat Forde articles in 2018. quote:Well that's not at all true lol he got a show cause.
Then, when it turned out that all of those articles were much ado about nothing,
You clearly know nothing about how any of that transpired
quote:Well LSU is an 18.5 point favorite over the team that just beat a Big 12 team so winning by 20 would be great.
If LSU loses tonight in an empty arena to UNO, I would be less surprised than if LSU were to win tonight by more than 2
Posted on 11/10/25 at 4:15 pm to Fat Bastard
Woodward wasn’t simply the athletic face of Louisiana’s flagship university — he was a fixture in Baton Rouge’s old political guard. A registered Democrat and protégé of James Carville, Woodward was handpicked for the LSU job in 2019 by then-Governor John Bel Edwards. His arrival symbolized the continuation of a familiar order — one where the upper ranks of LSU operated as an extension of the state’s entrenched political establishment rather than a reflection of its people.
Isn't exactly what is happening now a political statement? Also there are so many facts that are wrong in that article.
Isn't exactly what is happening now a political statement? Also there are so many facts that are wrong in that article.
Posted on 11/10/25 at 4:22 pm to cajuntiger1010
SW was at LSU when Fisher was extended. He wasn't responsible for Fishers large buyout.
Per Gordon McKernan SW took 3 coaching candidates to the BOS with their contract demands for taking the job. The BOS selected BK and told SW to hire him. SW was doing his job by doing what the BOS asked him to do. So, why doesnt Landry ask for those BOS members resignations?
Per Gordon McKernan SW took 3 coaching candidates to the BOS with their contract demands for taking the job. The BOS selected BK and told SW to hire him. SW was doing his job by doing what the BOS asked him to do. So, why doesnt Landry ask for those BOS members resignations?
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