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Posted on 4/6/25 at 11:14 am to LSUFanHouston
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People don’t want to admit how bad of a job this was It might be a worse job now
Absolutely incorrect
LSU would be an amazing attraction with the right coach, 100%
We’ve got better history than many in the SEC
Posted on 4/6/25 at 11:14 am to Adam Banks
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Ironically his choice to replace wade will be a big part of himself being fired.
I think you are overestimating the degree to which the LSU fanbase cares about men’s basketball. There is certainly a rabid core who do, but Woodward won’t be fired if football and baseball are competitive. Kelly will make or break Woodward.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 11:18 am to MikeTheTiger71
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think you are overestimating the degree to which the LSU fanbase cares about men’s basketball. There is certainly a rabid core who do, but Woodward won’t be fired if football and baseball are competitive. Kelly will make or break Woodward.
Baseball doesn’t make money. People who are writing the checks aren’t taking it into account.
Football and his ridiculous contracts+ basketball with McMahons ridiculous contract are both big time on the clock.
If we aren’t in the playoff in football and March madness in basketball woody will get very uncomfortable.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 11:20 am to Adam Banks
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Wade got Alleva fired.
Woody was scared of the same.
If if Woodward was a Lipsey puppet, it says a lot that they fired Wade.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 11:20 am to Adam Banks
Yep, the Wade folks get amnesia when talking about the situation at that time. We were absolutely in the NCAA gun sights. Football program was under scrutiny as well. No name coach was taking the LSU job at that time,
and Mac was smart enough to demand a 7 year contract considering the probation time we were looking at. Then came full blown NIL and it saved us and Wade. The NCAA was hog tied at that point, and decided not to prosecute the past. Woody's job is to protect LSU, and he did.
and Mac was smart enough to demand a 7 year contract considering the probation time we were looking at. Then came full blown NIL and it saved us and Wade. The NCAA was hog tied at that point, and decided not to prosecute the past. Woody's job is to protect LSU, and he did.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 11:38 am to tiger81
You do know that all this garbage about the men's basketball being a mess back when they fired wade was a smoke screen,fat man tells you what he wants you here.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 11:43 am to Adam Banks
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Baseball doesn’t make money. People who are writing the checks aren’t taking it into account
Most of the basketball money comes from the conference. It’s not directly tied to the success or failure of the program. Yes, the potential revenue is greater with deep runs into the NCAA tournament, but the amount of money that has to be spent to achieve that level of success consistently is also much higher than baseball.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 11:50 am to MikeTheTiger71
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Most of the basketball money comes from the conference. It’s not directly tied to the success or failure of the program
Tell that to the MULTIPLE millions currently being dropped on singular players in NIL
That ain’t conference/tv money
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It’s not directly tied to the success or failure of the program. Yes, the potential revenue is greater with deep runs into the NCAA tournament,
So increasing success=increasing profit
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the amount of money that has to be spent to achieve that level of success consistently is also much higher than baseball.
And the money men are paying it.
Personally I think mass NIL is a fool’s errand until we have the right coach but woody at least is putting his balls on the line.
I promise the money men ain’t gonna be happy with missing the tournament when they are dropping multiple millions on players to not make the tournament. And they will blame both McMahon and the man who told them to pay it-woody
This post was edited on 4/6/25 at 11:51 am
Posted on 4/6/25 at 11:52 am to MikeTheTiger71
Not hardly :
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In total, Will Wade was cited for:
- five Level I violations
- obstructing an investigation by concealing evidence
- Unethical conduct
- Cheating was planned/schemed/purposeful
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In total, Will Wade was cited for:
- five Level I violations
- obstructing an investigation by concealing evidence
- Unethical conduct
- Cheating was planned/schemed/purposeful
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Posted on 4/6/25 at 11:55 am to tiger81
Riding out wade through a show cause LSU would have won more than 3 SEC games this season
Posted on 4/6/25 at 12:03 pm to Adam Banks
You liked the McMahon hire.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 12:05 pm to Lester Earl
Honestly was surprised that we got him under the circumstances which was Woodys doing.
Didn’t like the contract.
Same issue as Kelly.
Basically cut bait before it completely tanks if it ain’t working out
Didn’t like the contract.
Same issue as Kelly.
Basically cut bait before it completely tanks if it ain’t working out
This post was edited on 4/6/25 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 4/6/25 at 12:06 pm to Jack Crevalle
Need another post about this thanks
Posted on 4/6/25 at 12:08 pm to Adam Banks
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So increasing success=increasing profit
It equals increased revenue, but I’m not convinced it equals increasing profit. The top programs in the conference bring in $5-$6M more in revenue than LSU, but that’s with reported NIL budgets in the $8-$10M range.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 12:10 pm to Adam Banks
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Riding out wade through a show cause LSU would have won more than 3 SEC games this season
In hindsight, that’s true. The potential downside for both football and basketball wasn’t worth the risk.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 12:12 pm to MikeTheTiger71
You'll never convince me it wasn't the haircut that got McMahon the job. We needed a Mr. clean and there he was. The fact that there was very little basketball IQ under that haircut was not considered.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 12:15 pm to MikeTheTiger71
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I know all you Wade lovers want to engage in the revisionist history that there was no dark cloud hanging over LSU at the time McMahon and Golden were hired. It is easy to forget just how much the college landscape has changed in the last few years and how much control the NCAA has lost. The fact that no serious penalties came from this situation doesn’t mean none were expected at the time. Many of you have this idea that Woodward let his ego drive him to wanting to put his mark on the program, but fail to acknowledge how McMahon does not fit the mold of a typical Woodward hire. He was no Kelly, Jay Johnson, Kim Mulkey, or Jimbo Fisher with a proven track record at the highest level of the sport. There is a reason he had to take a flyer on McMahon and give him above market value job security. That is the same reason Golden wasn’t going to take the LSU job over the Florida job.
Well said
Posted on 4/6/25 at 12:24 pm to MikeTheTiger71
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equals increased revenue, but I’m not convinced it equals increasing profit. The top programs in the conference bring in $5-$6M more in revenue than LSU, but that’s with reported NIL budgets in the $8-$10M range.
NIL in its current form does not come from the AD. It is entirely separate. Increased revenue=increased profit.
This post was edited on 4/6/25 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 4/6/25 at 12:39 pm to Adam Banks
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NIL in its current form does not come from the AD. It is entirely separate. Increased revenue=increased profit.
I get that, but you are the one who brought the outside money men into the equation. And soon allocation of the $20M in revenue sharing will come into play. Other schools will choose to spend more on basketball than LSU because they have different priorities. Again, the amount necessary to compete in basketball is unlikely to be worth the cost when determining value either based on revenue or athletic success.
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