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Will wade on 3 pt defense

Posted on 2/10/20 at 3:00 pm
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 3:00 pm
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Go to the last 1:45 of the video to specifically hear him discuss this.
He seems to believe its kind of a luck stat. I admittedly havent researched it much. Whats your take on this?
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 3:01 pm to
Him believing it is a luck stat would explain why his teams have been poor at defending it.
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 3:03 pm to
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The Pirate King

Kind of looking for opinions on those not biased against Wade. Run along.
Posted by red sox fan 13
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 3:06 pm to
Sorry but it's not a lucky stat when it happens every game.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 3:07 pm to
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He seems to believe its kind of a luck stat


Can't listen right now. What exactly do you mean by him saying it's a luck stat?
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 3:08 pm to
Without listening...

A lot of it is luck, one of the biggest stat swings game to game is 3 point shooting. There's a lot less variation in 2 point shooting and FT shooting even compared to 3 point shooting. You shoot 47% one game then 17% the next, not uncommon.

That being said, we suck at defending the 3 and the law of averages over the season agree with that. We simply do not guard close enough out on the perimeter and let bad guys get good looks and even bad guys will make them when you allow that so often.

So yes, he's not wrong 3 point defense is kind of a luck stat game to game. But over the course of a season 1 team that allows 36% 3 point shooting vs. one that allows 26% in the same league is clearly defending the 3 probably a lot worse than the 26% team.
This post was edited on 2/10/20 at 3:09 pm
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 3:09 pm to
He basically said its based on randomness, and not something necessarily that lsu is doing wrong. I guess i would liken it to hitting with runners in scoring position
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 3:09 pm to
Kinda like PM saying a hitting coach does nothing


He’s fricking wrong
Posted by Rb52224
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 3:09 pm to
Going back to his first Chattanooga team, opponents have shot between 33-35% on 3s, never ranking in the top 100. Yes there is some luck game to game shooting 3s, but overall there is a trend that his teams are not good at defending the 3.
Posted by S
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 3:11 pm to
Too loose, not contesting, and even worse is having to defend against penetration. They drive, kick, extra pass and they’ll get looks for days. Vandy having that guy who had never scored more than 16 go 7-9 was lucky but the way they penetrated and moved the ball around helped get those looks.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 3:11 pm to
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He seems to believe its kind of a luck stat. I admittedly havent researched it much. Whats your take on this?


I think he's specifically referring to the broader stat and how it's calculated simply being the number of 3's made vs. number of 3's attempted.

There's enough variables in the relatively small number of three's attempted in a game that judging performance solely on the stat isn't accurate.
Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 3:11 pm to
Our guys tend to be out of position and flat footed when it comes to guarding guys on the perimeter. Its not a coincidence that every team lights us up from outside or has guards that easily drive to the goal. Even when they get to the goal we let the score or commit a touch foul. If our guys just learned a few defensive fundamentals we’d be almost unstoppable.
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 3:11 pm to
Are there teams that regularly rank in the top 50 in the country in 3 pt defense? Think that would kind of disprove this
Posted by mylsuhat
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 3:13 pm to
Auburn couldn't miss from 3



they were shooting better in the game than most teams do in practice
Posted by S
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 3:13 pm to
Gonna guess you’ll see the likes of UVA and TT up there. Opponents just get such great looks because we are terrible at defending the point of attack
Posted by dukee7
Louisiana
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 3:14 pm to
While I think our perimeter D sucks, there’s no stopping that Auburn kid who was throwing up prayer 3’s and hoping for the best
Posted by pellietigersaint
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 3:14 pm to
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Kind of looking for opinions on those not biased against Wade. Run along.


hahaha. walk the plank arse pirate
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 3:14 pm to
Agreed. I think he is probably right that the dribble 3’s that guys like mccormick hit should only go in about 20% of the time. But the horse 3’s we give up are what bothers me coming off easy penetration into the lane
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 3:17 pm to
I agree it's based on randomness. But he is delusional if he thinks uncontested 3's are just as easy as heavily contested 3's with somebody in your face.
Posted by pellietigersaint
Tiger Stadium
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 3:18 pm to
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A lot of it is luck, one of the biggest stat swings game to game is 3 point shooting. There's a lot less variation in 2 point shooting and FT shooting even compared to 3 point shooting. You shoot 47% one game then 17% the next, not uncommon.


right. I've heard Wade speak to their inability to keep vandy out of the lane....not having enough of the right type of defenders. Being that a 2 pt fg is more consistent and reliable, he is hedging his bets by having our defenders give some space and lure them into the 3 point shot..............which is backfiring.

When Taylor went under two ball screen under twice in the final 1:30 of the AU game to give up an uncontested 3, I lost my shite. Why not chase the ball into the paint. If those two 3's were two pt fg's, we win by (you guessed it), two points
This post was edited on 2/10/20 at 3:20 pm
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