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re: Will Wade NCAA investigation may drag football into the mess
Posted on 8/26/20 at 12:26 pm to LSUGrrrl
Posted on 8/26/20 at 12:26 pm to LSUGrrrl
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Is it an infraction to talk about a bribe (talking shite) or do they have evidence he actually offered a bribe? Really asking because I haven’t followed.
It is an NCAA rules infraction to "make an offer." The significance of the FBI wiretap is it contains WW's "confession" of an offer.
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Posted on 8/26/20 at 12:28 pm to Irish LSU Fan
Every coach makes scholarship offers.
So you’re talking shite.
Saying you made an “offer” alone isn’t confessing ahit.
So you’re talking shite.
Saying you made an “offer” alone isn’t confessing ahit.
This post was edited on 8/26/20 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 8/26/20 at 12:30 pm to SammyTiger
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There is just as credible suspicions against Zion and Duke but the NCAA is digging through their garbage.
Do we know this to be a fact, or are you just saying this as your opinion?
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What kinda dork takes the NCAAs side over weak shite like this?
Not taking a "side." It is clear that WW cheated (he admitted to unethical behavior on the FBI wiretap). Did you hear WW's voice on the HBO special? HE SAID HE MADE THE OFFER(S). THAT is a violation of NCAA rules. You don't have to have a cancelled check because "making" the offer is enough!
Posted on 8/26/20 at 12:31 pm to The Pirate King
If Wade's conduct ends up hurting the football program, even is blindly loyal legion of fan boys will turn on him.
Posted on 8/26/20 at 12:37 pm to Irish LSU Fan
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Do we know this to be a fact, or are you just saying this as your opinion?
You mean like a law suit claiming he wasn’t eligible to play for Duke?
Credibility is always an opinion. But the allegations are out there and the NCAA isn’t doing shite.
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Not taking a "side.
You are in fact taking a side.
quote:
is clear that WW cheated (he admitted to unethical behavior on the FBI wiretap). Did you hear WW's voice on the HBO special? HE SAID HE MADE THE OFFER(S). THAT is a violation of NCAA rules. You don't have to have a cancelled check because "making" the offer is enough!
You have to make an offer of an impermissible benefit.
It’s legal to offer a scholarship, a chance to play in front of your family, a chance to play for your home state, a chance to win SEC championships, all the academic assistance LSU provides it athletes and more.
You can even legally call that a strong arse offer.
Maybe the NCAA has more, but it’s your OPINION that he is talking about offering something impermissible.
Posted on 8/26/20 at 1:13 pm to TFS4E
So they don’t have to have any evidence that an offer of impermissible benefits was actually made; the alleged confession could be enough? What if he was just talking shite?
Posted on 8/26/20 at 1:15 pm to Irish LSU Fan
quote:how do you know? show your evidence
The use of "every" is not true
quote:you have no evidence to the contrary and the available evidence is pretty good that they are. again, you're just being obtuse and acting like a bratty teenage girl
You have no evidence to prove that 100% (every) major school is cheating
Posted on 8/26/20 at 1:17 pm to Irish LSU Fan
quote:you linked a story that has no proof much less an admission by wade himself that he cheated. it's just a statement.
LINK
Posted on 8/26/20 at 1:17 pm to SammyTiger
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Every coach makes scholarship offers.
So you’re talking shite.
Saying you made an “offer” alone isn’t confessing ahit.
You are delusional if you think he was talking about a scholarship!
Posted on 8/26/20 at 1:20 pm to Irish LSU Fan
quote:it can't be proven that it is. it's amazing you don't understand that. moreover, lsu was one of several schools recording in such conversations, including some blue bloods. so you seem to think the ncaa is just going to crash cbb. do you think the schools don't have dirt on each other? it will become a free for all and the ncaa knows they're the ones responsible for letting things get where they are
If you think WW is not talking about a bribe
Posted on 8/26/20 at 1:23 pm to LSUGrrrl
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So they don’t have to have any evidence that an offer of impermissible benefits was actually made; the alleged confession could be enough? What if he was just talking shite?
It's a difficult nuance, for sure. They don't need to prove he gave an impermissible benefit and prove that he offered an impermissible benefit. Offering an impermissible benefit is in itself an infraction. I am not sure they have any evidence on providing an impermissible benefit, but they could decide that "strong arse offer" is enough to say he admitted to offering an impermissible benefit.
It sounds like this new hearing board is trying to formalize the evidence/burden of proof process. Previously, the NCAA could basically decide what was and was not an infraction with little to know evidence.
Posted on 8/26/20 at 1:23 pm to Irish LSU Fan
quote:you seriously don't know that there was an open bidding war for zion? EVERYONE knows it and by everyone i mean the schools.
Do we know this to be a fact, or are you just saying this as your opinion?
quote:no it is not
It is clear that WW cheated
quote:he did no such thing and you're just being stupid
he admitted to unethical behavior on the FBI wiretap
what is wrong with you?
Posted on 8/26/20 at 1:25 pm to Irish LSU Fan
quote:says the person who
You are delusional if you think he was talking about a scholarship!
thinks wade admitted to making an impermissible offer
acts like duke didn't win the zion sweepstakes
acts like everyone isn't cheating
Posted on 8/26/20 at 2:03 pm to Irish LSU Fan
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You are delusional if you think he was talking about a scholarship!
Now you’re going from fact to opinions
You’re delusional if you think there are clean programs out there winning games.
This post was edited on 8/26/20 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 8/26/20 at 2:13 pm to The First Cut
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Woody needs to end this shite show.
Hold the fort
Give in and punishment will be severe. They don't have enough evidence and want LSU to "blink"
Thank God Alleva isn't here
Posted on 8/26/20 at 5:52 pm to TFS4E
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It sounds like this new hearing board is trying to formalize the evidence/burden of proof process. Previously, the NCAA could basically decide what was and was not an infraction with little to know evidence.
This is what I was drilling down to. I mean, do they even have proof he actually made a “strong arse offer” to anyone? Do they need proof or is just saying you did an infraction? People talk shite all the time.
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