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Will Wade Haters: The Hammer isn't Dropping Anytime Soon

Posted on 4/25/19 at 8:45 am
Posted by LSUgrad1998
Member since Aug 2018
775 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 8:45 am
Seems many think the amended contract is a sign of guilt, I happen to think otherwise. Wade knows there is no existing proof of any NCAA violations. The bonus money was for making the NCAA Tourney, and advancing to the Sweet 16. He wasn't coaching them during that time. The FBI has asked the NCAA to wait until after the federal trials before pursuing any of the coaches/schools in the alleged pay to play scandal. Before the hammer drops on Wade and LSU, that hammer is also after Pearl at AU, Self at Kansas, Miller at AZ, and many others not yet outed by leaks to the media. This issue is wide spread throughout college basketball, and anyone believing only Wade is a target is sadly mistaken. Only 4 asst coaches were charged. They were from Auburn, Oklahoma State, Arizona, and the University of Southern California. It's believed Lousiville and the University of Miami are part of the investigation but were not named by the FBI. The NCAA risks it's $1 billion a year March Madness cash cow should they choose to take down everyone involved. Kansas suspended a player with a new car, so Bill Self is on the radar screen. Now from the first day of testimony, we know 4 football programs will be facing scrutiny for players being paid. So again, Will Wade is just one fish in a crowded pond, and when the NCAA casts its net a lot of other big named fish will be caught up as well.
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 8:48 am to
Who hates Will Wade in here
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 8:48 am to
The contract thing was pretty straightforward IMO. They asked him if he committed violations, he said no, they said would you sign an addendum to your contract that basically would back this up if you were caught we have the means to fire you...he signed it.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37572 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 8:49 am to
You're such an insufferable douche
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39978 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 8:50 am to
quote:

Who hates Will Wade in here


Like 2-3 contrarians. Not even worth addressing TBH
Posted by Manswers
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
3616 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 8:52 am to
Whether it's in reference to O or Wade, I wish people would stop using the word "hater" against anyone expressing concern about a coach's ability or other issue. I can honestly say I have seen no one on this board that I thought truly hates either O or Wade.

That word has become a plague.
Posted by Flashback
reading the chicken bones
Member since Apr 2008
8301 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 8:52 am to
No one hates WW on here, dummy.
Posted by LSUgrad1998
Member since Aug 2018
775 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 8:53 am to
And you are really Joe "I am the Search" Alleva. You are the tampon.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37572 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 8:54 am to
OP has made the following posts over the course of a few days:

Basically shitting on Mainieri and making smartass follow-up posts to back up his point

Coach O on Solid Ground for another 9 seasons at least!

4/23/2019: PM now officially on the Hot Seat -

PM: Give the man a Lifetime Contract -

Paul Mainieri: When is his Seat Going to get Hot?
Posted by LSUgrad1998
Member since Aug 2018
775 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 8:55 am to
I was referencing all the posters on the Topic of Wade's Contract revision. Many were saying his agreeing to the language was an admission of guilt.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37572 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 8:56 am to
Are you dense? Less than 1% of the LSU fan base hates Will Wade. Less than 1% of the fan base wants him fired.

You must still be reeling from your CPM threads.


Let it be known, LSUgrad1998 thinks Coach K at Duke should be fired right now for underachieving Post of it
This post was edited on 4/25/19 at 8:58 am
Posted by LSUgrad1998
Member since Aug 2018
775 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 8:56 am to
Sorry that you don't expect more out of PM. We just can agree to disagree on his performance over 12 years.
Posted by Adajax
Member since Nov 2015
6113 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 8:56 am to
quote:

Kansas suspended a player with a new car, so Bill Self is on the radar screen


Self is on the radar screen because the FBI has text messages between Self and an Adidas executive talking about paying players to go to Kansas. And the NCAA ruled the player ineligible, Kansas didn't suspend him.

quote:

It's believed Lousiville and the University of Miami are part of the investigation but were not named by the FBI


Yes, they were. It's what led to Pitino being fired.
This post was edited on 4/25/19 at 9:19 am
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
19970 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 8:57 am to
Who are the haters? The ones that say he has some culpability in this mess? Because he does. That doesn’t mean anyone hates him, wants him gone or is naive enough to think that a quality basketball program in this day and age needs to get their hands dirty.
Posted by LSUgrad1998
Member since Aug 2018
775 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 8:59 am to
As did many Duke fans when they lost with what most consider was his most talented team in years.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37572 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 8:59 am to
He has nearly the same resume over the last 12 years as Coach K at Duke. This isn't the 1990s anymore. Programs put money into Baseball and Skip Bertman wouldn't have 5 national titles if he was coaching in this era of College Baseball
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77564 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 8:59 am to
quote:

Who hates Will Wade in here


I assumed he was referring people like Forde and Vitale.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
29983 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 9:00 am to
quote:

The FBI has asked the NCAA to wait until after the federal trials before pursuing any of the coaches/schools in the alleged pay to play scandal


Is that what they asked? I am seriously inquiring, not trolling.

I think that what the FBI can give the NCAA (in terms of wiretap information) will probably be limited by laws governing privacy. The caveat is anything that is presented in a trial proceeding that is not sealed should be publicly accessible.

I always assumed that was the delay in the NCAA going forward. Otherwise, I think it would require legal proceedings for the NCAA to get any wiretap info obtained, if they even could, for any cases that were settled and didn't have evidenced entered into public record. The NCAA is a non governmental organization.


Maybe one of the tRant lawyers could answer that question. What can the FBI legally turn over to a non governmental agency?
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37572 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 9:00 am to
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As did many Duke fans when they lost with what most consider was his most talented team in years.


Yeah that's bull shite
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28250 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 9:00 am to
I agree that this is a "college basketball problem" and not strictly a "Will Wade problem". That said, there was enough smoke that LSU felt justified protecting its interest in the potential that something comes up down the line. Likewise, Wade accepted the amendments to his contract when he easily could have rejected and forced LSU to either abide by the contract or fire him. Clearly both sides felt there was enough potential risk to make the changes.

That said, Wade is betting on himself. He's agreeing to the the new clauses because LSU is still his best opportunity right now and he likely thinks a year or two of great success will give him back the leverage he lost this year. If he is competing for SEC championships, making the NCAAT and routinely filling the PMAC over the next two years I guarantee you he's going to squeeze LSU to remove any "unfavorable" conditions from his contract.

The bottom line is unless you are completely naive or willfully disingenuous, you know Wade did "something" plausibly in violation of NCAA rules because, simply put, that's what you HAVE to do to recruit at a high level in CBB. Whether or not it's ever proven, who knows? He's taking his medicine right now for getting "caught", but fully believes he'll be successful enough to later make these new clauses disappear.
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