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re: Will Sloan’s playcalling improve?
Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:05 pm to cbree88
Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:05 pm to cbree88
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There’s been lots of headscratchers. That 4th and 1 play with big Kaleb Jackson running sideways to the sideline was a great example. Just doesn’t make any sense and doesn’t utilize the talent properly.
Nuss should have pulled and ran, the middle was wide open and he would have had the first down. KJ shouldn’t have been in the game to run outside wide zone but idk if that’s on Sloan or Frank.
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Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:05 pm to MrWiseGuy
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Have you missed that it was an option play? Nuss could hand it off or make a shovel pass to Zavion. Kelly is chewing him out as soon as he gets to the sideline.
Then Caden Durham should have been the back in the game. Only excuse is if he was injured at that point and couldn’t get back in yet. The talent was not used properly. Poor play call
This post was edited on 10/14/24 at 8:06 pm
Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:05 pm to MrWiseGuy
Also, Sloan doesn’t decide who goes in the game play by play. The RB coach dictates the rotation.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:07 pm to bayouboo
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Also, Sloan doesn’t decide who goes in the game play by play. The RB coach dictates the rotation.
There’s no way Sloan doesn’t have an option to override his running back coach.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:09 pm to cbree88
You think Sloan has time to call a play then call down to each position coach and tell them who he wants in the game?
If anyone, Kelly needs to be managing that. The OC has his hands full play to play.
If anyone, Kelly needs to be managing that. The OC has his hands full play to play.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:10 pm to philly444
The rushing scheme is lacking Power and need to start pulling OL, if they even practice that.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:10 pm to Gnash
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KJ shouldn’t have been in the game to run outside wide zone but idk if that’s on Sloan or Frank.
That’s my main gripe. The wrong personnel were in the game.
This post was edited on 10/14/24 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:12 pm to bayouboo
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You think Sloan has time to call a play then call down to each position coach and tell them who he wants in the game?
Yes. Why would Kelly have time but Sloan doesn’t? No way the offensive coordinator is calling plays totally blind to the personnel that will be in the game.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:15 pm to cbree88
What is Kelly doing while Sloan is deciding what play to call? By the time the play is called, the position coaches are making substitutions. No way Sloan can scan the field, call back down to pull a player to sub another.
Sloan doesn’t call a play and personnel to be in the game.
Sloan doesn’t call a play and personnel to be in the game.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:16 pm to nicholastiger
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My only gripe was on some of the 3rd and under 10 calls throughout game when all they needed was 6 yards for a first they chunking down the field
Get the first down
You have one of the best te in the country
That should be an easy call
Most, probably all, of those were not single-route play calls. They all had shorter routes available and open on several. Nuss decided to go for the home run. He missed on a few open guys (overthrew them) and simply made bad decisions at times. It happens, but it was not playcalling in those instances.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:19 pm to philly444
Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:19 pm to cbree88
That had me screaming.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:20 pm to bayouboo
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You think Sloan has time to call a play then call down to each position coach and tell them who he wants in the game?
Why wouldn't he? Those electrons carrying the signal travel really fast.
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If anyone, Kelly needs to be managing that.
That seems like nonsense. Maybe occasionally but you think he could do that quicker on the sidelines than a guy with a radio link to all his guys on the sideline?
Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:20 pm to MrWiseGuy
Compared to other top teams on offense, LSU's offense is far and away the most vanilla. Without top receivers and great thrower, LSU virtually has no offense. There is no reason LSU can't open up the running game with something more than a RPO running game with a non running QB. Just hand it off and hope somebody blocks somebody....which is rare in the running game.
Find some deception, run some reverses, jet sweeps, anything to stop allowing the defense to settle in and virtually know every single play we are going to run.
Find some deception, run some reverses, jet sweeps, anything to stop allowing the defense to settle in and virtually know every single play we are going to run.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:24 pm to mdomingue
Kelly has a headset as well. He can override anything. Why is it Sloan’s responsibility to micromanage everything happening? There is a reason position coaches are on the field. If you notice, all the RBs are standing with Frank. They get sent in by him.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:26 pm to philly444
Only thing Sloan should do is encourage Nuss to run when it’s wide open and slide after he gets the first down. That will inherently open the field up more.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:29 pm to FireGoodell
Yes it starts with Turner, he has to figure it out.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:31 pm to QB
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There is no reason LSU can't open up the running game with something more than a RPO running game with a non running QB.
One day, the rant will figure out the difference between an RPO and a read-option play.
You don't need a running QB to run and RPO offense, you do to run a read option.
Here is a simple description I found to determine what an offense is running on a play.
Lineman Blocking Run + Wide Receivers Blocking Run = Read Option
Lineman Blocking Run + Wide Receivers Running Routes = RPO
Lineman Blocking Pass + Wide Receivers Running Routes = Play Action
Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:41 pm to philly444
Well I guess we could hire Matt Canada back. Or hire Les miles as coordinator. And just run up the middle three times and punt. Maybe get to that 100 yd passing a game. Throw some toss dives to the weak side to throw the other team of balance.
He just needs better run schemes. If we can get some solid run plays, it will allow better passing plays.
He just needs better run schemes. If we can get some solid run plays, it will allow better passing plays.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:45 pm to GratefulTiger
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He needs to disguise the run better. It became so obvious what we were running and we actually benefited from it on a play action TD pass.
This. Vanilla. They are going to have to mix it up. What they have been doing isn't working.
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