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re: will Miles get any heat from the OkSt scandal?
Posted on 9/10/13 at 9:32 pm to bdnc
Posted on 9/10/13 at 9:32 pm to bdnc
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At some point in time LSU will have to address the situation.
bullshite. I'll actually be more pissed if LSU does address it. This has nothing to do with LSU. Les was already asked about it today and he gave his answer.
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 9:34 pm to Tigerdew
I say dig up dirt on Thayer and let run through the blogosphere. Just fight fire with fire.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 9:36 pm to TigerFanNKaty
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My question is: Who is behind this? The media has been after LSU for sometime now, so ask who is really behind these types of hack jobs. Is it the fricking gumps, is it OU trying to knock down OSU, and also Thayer does he have some kind of agenda that can be exposed. Someone is going after Les Miles in my eyes and wants to take down LSU with him.
Bleacher Report has a pic of Les with their story...in OSU gear...but not Gundy. Very odd.
Sure seems someone is gunning for Les and LSU. Money is on a gump connection.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 9:41 pm to jlc05
MIles is a bigger story, he has a NC and his program is arguably the best in the college football.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:00 pm to jlc05
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Bleacher Report has a pic of Les with their story...in OSU gear...but not Gundy. Very odd.
Sure seems someone is gunning for Les and LSU. Money is on a gump connection.
It's a better story to throw Miles all over the news honestly. If they show Gundy no one really gives a flying frick. I wonder what made Evans and his band of misfits start this investigation in the first place. If he's telling the truth he started this thing last November. That's what he decides to do in the middle of football season? What the frick ever.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:07 pm to bdnc
..and you just know that they would love to say that LSU does now what OSU did then. One of the main players interviewed played his entire career AFTER Miles left, yet they still show Miles' pic on BR.
I'm not saying that LSU is squeaky clean, all programs have their $100 hand-shakes and what-not and it's damn near impossible to stop, but they do have one of the best compliance programs around.
And you're on harder drugs than these OSU rejects if you believe for a second that T Boone had nothing to do with any of this, he's just too smart to not have cut-out guys to do the dirty work. In fact, I thought this about OSU and T Boone back around 6 years ago when ESPN interviewed him about the rise of OSU. One thing that I remember him saying about the money that he poured into the program was something like, "I'm an old man. I don't plant small trees anymore, I plant big ones", meaning that he wants results NOW, he doesn't have the time or patience to wait for things to grow slowly. If it's about the Jimmys and Joes, then why wouldn't he use that same philosophy to get players to his program?
I'm not saying that LSU is squeaky clean, all programs have their $100 hand-shakes and what-not and it's damn near impossible to stop, but they do have one of the best compliance programs around.
And you're on harder drugs than these OSU rejects if you believe for a second that T Boone had nothing to do with any of this, he's just too smart to not have cut-out guys to do the dirty work. In fact, I thought this about OSU and T Boone back around 6 years ago when ESPN interviewed him about the rise of OSU. One thing that I remember him saying about the money that he poured into the program was something like, "I'm an old man. I don't plant small trees anymore, I plant big ones", meaning that he wants results NOW, he doesn't have the time or patience to wait for things to grow slowly. If it's about the Jimmys and Joes, then why wouldn't he use that same philosophy to get players to his program?
This post was edited on 9/10/13 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:15 pm to ffishstik
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if you believe for a second that T Boone had nothing to do with any of this, he's just too smart to not have cut-out guys to do the dirty work.
This guy, man. Probably one of the most powerful men in America that no one really knows much about, except for his OSU lovefest. If he had anything to do with any of this, he's paid his way out of it.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:20 pm to TigerFanNKaty
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Thayer and fricking SI need to be exposed for the fricking hacks they are
SI has learned there are certain ways to sell an issue. These guys have tried to take down Alabama, Auburn ,LSU, OSU, and others. The sources are usually disgruntled homeless former ball players. It happens every year, this year Oklahoma State gets the SI glory.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:25 pm to TigerFanNKaty
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I say dig up dirt on Thayer and let run through the blogosphere. Just fight fire with fire
people here in okc are saying he was fired from the ny times or the Houston chronicle (can't remember which), for lying about his resume. wwls the sports animal, is trying to get a former player on their show (possibly tomorrow) that was approached by Thayer about doing an interview. According to the former player, thayer lied about what he originally wanted to discuss in the interview, then he starting asking questions about pay for play, and the other topics. it got so heated, the guy walked out during the interview, and thayer got pissed, and told him he had to come back and finish the interview. here's a link to their webcast, if anyone wants to listen tomorrow. Also, SI told the show, they would be willing to call them later in the week, to set up an interview with one of the guy's who was involved in writing the story
LINK
This post was edited on 9/10/13 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:28 pm to TigerFanNKaty
Miles has lost all control of LSU
The stuff coming out about this article is really bullshite. I hope this dude gets slapped with slander charges for trying to disgrace Gundy/Miles.
The stuff coming out about this article is really bullshite. I hope this dude gets slapped with slander charges for trying to disgrace Gundy/Miles.
This post was edited on 9/10/13 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:43 pm to deuce985
Witnesses say all sorts of wild stuff when you interview them the first time. It's rarely fact when you drill down into it. It rarely survives cross examination. Right now the only evidence you have is what the writers say the players said in one-sided interviews. I ain't sweating.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:44 pm to deuce985
Timing for this story to come out 
...man, frick this guy and SI.
...man, frick this guy and SI. 
Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:46 pm to JudgeHolden
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Witnesses say all sorts of wild stuff when you interview them the first time. It's rarely fact when you drill down into it. It rarely survives cross examination. Right now the only evidence you have is what the writers say the players said in one-sided interviews. I ain't sweating.
We need some video depos under oath under cross examination to see if this shite holds up.
This post was edited on 9/10/13 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 9/10/13 at 10:58 pm to tigerpimpbot
Thayer is the one that did the hatchet job on TM7 last year.
Looks like he's got a hard on for LSU.
Looks like he's got a hard on for LSU.
This post was edited on 9/10/13 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:04 pm to Oyster
Were those girls paid to have sex or are people piling it on because they wanted some BBC?
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:08 pm to jmarto1
Dohrmann says the most disturbing thing to him is how the school handled drug problems. He indicates that they appointed a counselor who gave the kids poor advice and says he interviewed the counselor. If true, that counselor ought to be up to his arse in HIPPA violations.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:49 pm to JudgeHolden
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Dohrmann says the most disturbing thing to him is how the school handled drug problems. He indicates that they appointed a counselor who gave the kids poor advice and says he interviewed the counselor. If true, that counselor ought to be up to his arse in HIPPA violations.
Tatum Bell said that they were drug tested regularly and players received punishments. They were given chances to clean up, some did, others didn't. Some of the players that were interviewed were kicked off because of drugs.
Bell also said that Miles changed the culture for the better. Turning them around the right way. He was strict with school and everything else. Coaches would walk by classes and check attendance. Those who missed had to run. He also had former players that failed classes and would get suspended.
Funny how the article implies that coaches were relaxed on drugs and grades. Yet several of the interviewed players were kicked off for drugs and/or bad grades.
Also funny how 3rd stringers are getting cash handshakes. Yet the best players on the team are getting left out.
Bell also said that boosters weren't allowed too near the team.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 12:11 am to IceTiger
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will Miles get any heat from the OkSt scandal?
Posted on 9/11/13 at 12:34 am to IceTiger
Academic fraud is an OSU Cowboy tradition that goes back many decades. Dexter Manley was an academically-eligible OSU student-athlete for four years (1977-81), who later admitted being functionally illiterate. After 10 seasons with the Washington Redskins, he was banned from the NFL when he failed a drug test for the fourth time. Someone who cared about his well-being knew he had fallen off the wagon when he failed to appear for an ADULT LITERACY class in which he was enrolled.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 12:54 am to whodidthat
Espn writer Jason Whitlock nails it
“I have the obvious take (on the series) that I’m tired of these stories. We’ve been reading these stories for 30 years and I’m tired of people pointing out how corrupt participants are in a system that has been proven to be corrupt. The NCAA amateur system is corrupt, so we should not be surprised that there is corruption among the participants. I would like to see more of the focus on the NCAA and the system and fixing that, and then I’ll get upset about the corruption. I think the story is a cliché and bogus and suspect and just the wrong angle."
The media is nothing more than a master of puppets, and this is nothing more than watching a senseless herd of buffalo following each other off a cliff. The system should finally open it's eyes and stop kidding itself ( I really thought Mark Emmert could acheive modernizing the NCAA, but that is yet to be determined). The Coaches are being paid five and six million dollars a year and multi-million dollar t.v contracts loom over the heads of players working their arse off in two-a day practices, (in over a hundred degree heat) while others in air-conditioned places make the dollars. Not to mention that everyone else is making a supreme profit off their athletic ability and image, while neglecting empathy for the punishment on their bodies that can last the course of a lifetime; the irony is that this writer and it's company are also making a profit off this article. Meanwhile, the program down the road in Oklahoma has done the same exact culture for years upon years as told in ESPN's Marcus Dupree's story. And academic fraud has been going on as well for some time in college sports i.e. Florida State and a music history class as well as a myriad of other cases. It is literally win at all costs, but the pressure that t.v has put on these coaches and players to win is partially to blame.
College sports is nothing but a pre-cursor to the professional way of life because of the very culture that their greedy system created. It is time to stop the leave it to beaver thinking and break down the wall of stubborness and fix the system itself. The system cannot have it both ways and charge four hundred dollars for a three hour game and then complain that some players are wanting a piece of the pie. It is pure ignorance to believe in this thinking any longer.
I say if a booster wants to pay a player, well let them do what the system does and exploit it; otherwise find another solution that is not as laughable as the hypocrisy that is involved in college sports in today's age.
This piece in no way was arbitrarily picked, and I have my reasons for the timing, but will gracefully skip that on a message board. If they are going to go after Les, you must go after Nick, Urban, Pete and Chip (smartly bolted to the pros), and any other top college coach that helped create this same identical culture.
End soap box and que tell me how you really feel, but one soap box deserves another I suppose.
“I have the obvious take (on the series) that I’m tired of these stories. We’ve been reading these stories for 30 years and I’m tired of people pointing out how corrupt participants are in a system that has been proven to be corrupt. The NCAA amateur system is corrupt, so we should not be surprised that there is corruption among the participants. I would like to see more of the focus on the NCAA and the system and fixing that, and then I’ll get upset about the corruption. I think the story is a cliché and bogus and suspect and just the wrong angle."
The media is nothing more than a master of puppets, and this is nothing more than watching a senseless herd of buffalo following each other off a cliff. The system should finally open it's eyes and stop kidding itself ( I really thought Mark Emmert could acheive modernizing the NCAA, but that is yet to be determined). The Coaches are being paid five and six million dollars a year and multi-million dollar t.v contracts loom over the heads of players working their arse off in two-a day practices, (in over a hundred degree heat) while others in air-conditioned places make the dollars. Not to mention that everyone else is making a supreme profit off their athletic ability and image, while neglecting empathy for the punishment on their bodies that can last the course of a lifetime; the irony is that this writer and it's company are also making a profit off this article. Meanwhile, the program down the road in Oklahoma has done the same exact culture for years upon years as told in ESPN's Marcus Dupree's story. And academic fraud has been going on as well for some time in college sports i.e. Florida State and a music history class as well as a myriad of other cases. It is literally win at all costs, but the pressure that t.v has put on these coaches and players to win is partially to blame.
College sports is nothing but a pre-cursor to the professional way of life because of the very culture that their greedy system created. It is time to stop the leave it to beaver thinking and break down the wall of stubborness and fix the system itself. The system cannot have it both ways and charge four hundred dollars for a three hour game and then complain that some players are wanting a piece of the pie. It is pure ignorance to believe in this thinking any longer.
I say if a booster wants to pay a player, well let them do what the system does and exploit it; otherwise find another solution that is not as laughable as the hypocrisy that is involved in college sports in today's age.
This piece in no way was arbitrarily picked, and I have my reasons for the timing, but will gracefully skip that on a message board. If they are going to go after Les, you must go after Nick, Urban, Pete and Chip (smartly bolted to the pros), and any other top college coach that helped create this same identical culture.
End soap box and que tell me how you really feel, but one soap box deserves another I suppose.
This post was edited on 9/11/13 at 5:59 pm
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