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re: will Miles get any heat from the OkSt scandal?

Posted on 9/10/13 at 2:48 pm to
Posted by LSUnowhas2
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 2:48 pm to
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ason Whitlock slams SI writer Thayer Evans:


Jason Whitlock slamming another journalist for shoddy journalism is laughable.
Posted by Goldrush25
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 2:49 pm to
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Jason Whitlock slamming another journalist for shoddy journalism is laughable


Doesn't mean it's not shoddy nonetheless.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 2:52 pm to
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But then in addition to that, having worked with Thayer Evans at Fox Sports, having followed his work for some time, I am completely and utterly flabbergasted that a legitimate news outlet would allow Thayer Evans to be involved in some type of investigative piece on college football that tears down a program, and particularly one that tears down Oklahoma State when it is no secret what a huge, enormous, gigantic Oklahoma homer Thayer Evans is. This is just incredible. Knowing the lack of competence that’s there with Thayer Evans, knowing the level of simplemindedness that’s there with Thayer Evans, to base any part of the story on his reporting is mind-boggling.

“ … When I learned Thayer Evans was involved, I just said, there’s no way I’ll read this because there’s no reason to trust this reporter on anything of any substance.


Whitlock doing work.
Posted by liquid rabbit
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 2:53 pm to
Boom.
Posted by BRAVEFART
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 2:56 pm to
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There will be a bazillion posts from alters tomorrow

What do you mean?
Posted by trooploop
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 2:56 pm to
I stopped at the second paragraph where it says that a player got $800 from a booster in the locker room after a game that they lost 63-20-something. Sure, that's when boosters want to hand out all kinds of money and when coaches want boosters in the locker room. What a load of crap.
Posted by LSUnowhas2
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 2:58 pm to
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Doesn't mean it's not shoddy nonetheless.


True. But it also doesn't give much credibility to the article slamming Thayer Evans. Whitlock is just as guilty of the very types of criticisms he makes against Evans. Substitute in race or gun control and Whitlock does exactly the things that he now takes issue with regard to Evans. The only difference is that Whitlock still works for ESPN and Evans no longer works for ESPN.


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When I learned Thayer Evans was involved, I just said, there’s no way I’ll read this because there’s no reason to trust this reporter on anything of any substance.


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He’s simpleminded. He’s a hack that can’t write.


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But I’ve read enough of his work this guy isn’t qualified for this job and by now Sports Illustrated and anybody else should be well aware of this. Type his name into Google, read his previous work, read how his previous work has been rebunked [sic] and there’s just no surprise. This story will be shrouded in controversy.


The same things could be said of Whitlock when he compared the NRA to the KKK.
This post was edited on 9/10/13 at 3:00 pm
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 3:00 pm to
I'm still not sure why anyone gives a shite about this.
It's not like OkSt was winning championships, or even making it to BCS games. It's not like they were Miami and winning, who cares if they might have cheated a little. It didn't seem to help them all that much.
Posted by Goldrush25
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 3:03 pm to
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I'm still not sure why anyone gives a shite about this.
It's not like OkSt was winning championships, or even making it to BCS games. It's not like they were Miami and winning, who cares if they might have cheated a little. It didn't seem to help them all that much.



Because pay-for-play/recruiting scandals been a hot topic for the past few years. Writers will write on any topic that is sure to get them views.
This post was edited on 9/10/13 at 3:04 pm
Posted by LSUnowhas2
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 3:06 pm to
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Because pay-for-play/recruiting scandals been a hot topic for the past few years. Writers will write on any topic that is sure to get them views.


And because both coaches are still coaching at nationally relevant schools. It isn't like someone came forward with new information that said Barry Switzer cheated while he was coaching at Oklahoma.
Posted by Ignignot
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 3:09 pm to
Why was the OSU AD pussying up and taking such a soft stance towards the article??
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 3:12 pm to
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Why was the OSU AD pussying up and taking such a soft stance towards the article??


HellifIknow, but he backtracked on his apology to make sure it didn't look like he was already apologizing for wrong doing, but he didn't even do a good job with that. Amazes me that he referred to those two clowns as very capable. I'd have jerked his chains big time for that statement if he worked under me. I don't know that I'd let him speak publicly again.
Posted by SCTmo
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 3:14 pm to
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Why was the OSU AD pussying up and taking such a soft stance towards the article??



Reminds me of Gundy in 2011 failing to campaign for a shot at the BCS Championship game. Just backed down and made no effort to make the argument they should play for the championship even though their resume was superior to Bama's.

In the AD's case, it seems like he's trying to rollover on Miles and deny any wrongdoing under Gundy's watch.
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 3:15 pm to
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I don't know that I'd let him speak publicly again.


he did seem like a man that wasn't good with his words, by that i mean one that doens't use proper terminology to relay what he's actually thinking or trying to say
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 3:50 pm to
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he did seem like a man that wasn't good with his words, by that i mean one that doens't use proper terminology to relay what he's actually thinking or trying to say


I think that's partially true especially in view of his apology before anything even came out. I think he's just not a good person to speak publicly on behalf of the school. This stuff could be bogus for all he knows. Giving such credence to the writers before any investigation on their part was ignant.
Posted by airbornetiger
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 4:00 pm to
Interestingly, it seems the only consistent thing at OSU has been Mike Gundy.

Position Coach at OSU from 1990-1996

OC / Head Coach at OSU from 2001-present

I don't think anything sticks to Miles...if that were his nature we would have had RP and TM7.

Miles had success--but minimum success--at OSU. I am trying to figure out what Gundy has accomplished to earn his $3.75M salary.
Posted by danfraz
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 4:07 pm to
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Reminds me of Gundy in 2011 failing to campaign for a shot at the BCS Championship game. Just backed down and made no effort to make the argument they should play for the championship even though their resume was superior to Bama's. In the AD's case, it seems like he's trying to rollover on Miles and deny any wrongdoing under Gundy's watch.


This is factual. Miles is the name pushed yet the dates don't always correspond. Curious on how Evans can say or write that Gundy isn't implicated when he took over in 05 and this pay to play was happening last season

And Jason Whitlock whom I'm not a fan of necessarily ripped the shite out of the author today fwiw
Posted by freakazoid
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 4:16 pm to
TO ANSWER YOUR NAME WHATDOINO? not much. Les is a fantastic family man. just look at the fruits of his labor. You obviously know nothing about the man
Posted by TheRookbird
Member since Aug 2013
1322 posts
Posted on 9/10/13 at 4:17 pm to
George Dohrmann, the other writer whose name is attached to the story, has won a Pulitzer Prize. Does that make the story immediately credible? No. But Evans name attached to the story doesn't make it immediately non-credible, either.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 4:18 pm to
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Curious on how Evans can say or write that Gundy isn't implicated when he took over in 05 and this pay to play was happening last season

Easily the most WTF moment of this whole thing.
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