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re: Why We HAVE to Play JL and RS Very Soon at QB
Posted on 10/14/09 at 3:17 pm to RCDfan1950
Posted on 10/14/09 at 3:17 pm to RCDfan1950
one thing most qbs wouldn't do well if his pocket collapses after 1 to 2 seconds. If Jefferson keeps on struggling when he has time then we call for a new QB.
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Posted on 10/14/09 at 3:17 pm to AlaTiger
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AlaTiger
pretty obvious why you would want us to start JL with the Alabama game coming up. Yea that's the ticket, start JL. Sorry but we are not throwing the towel in on this season quite yet.
Posted on 10/14/09 at 3:20 pm to LSUdm21
Personally, I would just forgo passing the ball and use Sheppard in the Wildcat 70-80% of the time.
Posted on 10/14/09 at 3:21 pm to cepheid
Yep, 3 points and a couple sacks is gonna beat Bama 
Posted on 10/14/09 at 3:21 pm to cepheid
dp, sorry
This post was edited on 10/14/09 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 10/14/09 at 3:26 pm to LNCHBOX
what i'm saying that with one loss we still have a pretty good chance to win the west. Sure it would be good to get JL some reps but the situation is not really presenting itself much so far this season. Would much rather go with JJ, maybe get Shep in the game more and continue trying to win games. I don't really see where all these 'play JL' posts are coming from at this point in the season when we can still win the west.
This post was edited on 10/14/09 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 10/14/09 at 3:33 pm to cepheid
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I don't really see where all these 'play JL' posts are coming from at this point in the season when we can still win the west.
It's just obvious that it gives our offense a much better option at moving the ball. Sure JJ hasn't made any mistakes, but he's also really done nothing. Most of the QB's that we've played have outperformed JJ against our defense. That says alot. The ULL QB threw 163 yards while JJ threw for 166. Locker threw for 321 and he's more known to be a running QB.
Posted on 10/14/09 at 3:45 pm to DoubleDeuce
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It's just obvious that it gives our offense a much better option at moving the ball
not so sure about that that. As bad as the o looks it could be worse. JJ seems to be our best option at QB which is apparant to most fans and the coaches. Last season was last season and maybe JL has gotton a whole lot better since then but that is just speculation based on nothing.
Posted on 10/14/09 at 3:48 pm to DoubleDeuce
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There are people that actually have played organized football. Maybe not SEC caliber, but do understand how to read a defense and what JJ can do better.
Come on man, many NFL QBs have a hard time breaking down a defense before the snap. I'm sure your Al Bundy arse has it all figured out though. Hell, I was an all-district pitcher in high school but that doesn't mean I could sit Blake Dean down.
FWIW, you're EXACTLY the problem with the fan base. Every one is a fricking expert these days. I'll say it again, put the fricking PS3 controller DOWN!!!!
Posted on 10/14/09 at 3:53 pm to LSUdm21
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On the 3rd and 4th down sacks we didn't have one receiver any closer than 20 yds. Some of them were still running down field when he got sacked.
That's probably because Jefferson getting sacked on the previous attempts put us in 3rd and 15+
Posted on 10/14/09 at 3:54 pm to cepheid
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As bad as the o looks it could be worse.
How? You scored 3 points! You may as well have scored 0. You needed a miracle to beat MSU because you couldn't move the ball. UGA, we struggled to score on an obvious terrible defense.
Is everyone that scared that JLee will throw an INT? Come on guys. JJ has only played 1 good defense - UF. All others are pretenders.
If JLee would have gotten a little support from the defense last year we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Posted on 10/14/09 at 3:54 pm to catholictigerfan
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And a pick is better than a sack on 4th down.
To be at least a decent quarterback (and not necessarily a great one), you have to have the presence of mind to avoid a 4th down (and 1) sack. Some things are not rocket science, and this should not be one of them either.
Even if the play is busted, it should be a no-brainer to go forward to get one measly yard.
This post was edited on 10/14/09 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 10/14/09 at 4:00 pm to geaux4geauxldtigah
JL should be the 4th or 3rd choice or QB at BEST! We should play RS more and let him throw the damn ball! That's an easy 20 or 30 yard play cuz the whole country knows he only runs the ball! Plus RS is averaging 7 yards a carry. It's not rocket science. What we're doin is not working. Try something new! But I would rather see CG than JL! He set the NCAA record for pick 6's last year. Nuff said!
Posted on 10/14/09 at 4:01 pm to LSUdm21
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many NFL QBs have a hard time breaking down a defense before the snap
Yes NFL defenses. Why do you think that JJ has to look at the sideline every play? He is getting his pre-snap reads! He can't make them.
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Hell, I was an all-district pitcher in high school but that doesn't mean I could sit Blake Dean down.
I was an All-State utility player and played college baseball. I could probably sit Blake Dean down 70% of his at bats.
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FWIW, you're EXACTLY the problem with the fan base. Every one is a fricking expert these days. I'll say it again, put the fricking PS3 controller DOWN!!!!
You can hurl insults all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that I can look at film and see things that he's doing wrong. If I got the same looks that UF was giving JJ I could have made some completions. UF was mostly playing single high safety with man on the outside. They would sprinkle in a little cover 2 to break things up.
Posted on 10/14/09 at 4:02 pm to AlaTiger
I guess in one word to sum up your post...nonsense!
Posted on 10/14/09 at 4:02 pm to Accardo44
And what's the deal with this calling the play at the line BS? I hate that crap! Maybe it does have a lot of advantages, but we can't execute simple plays right now! Call the play in the huddle and stick with it! Time to nut up!!!!!
Posted on 10/14/09 at 4:05 pm to DoubleDeuce
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You can hurl insults all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that I can look at film and see things that he's doing wrong. If I got the same looks that UF was giving JJ I could have made some completions. UF was mostly playing single high safety with man on the outside. They would sprinkle in a little cover 2 to break things up.
Jesus tap dancing Christ..... I almost spit my drink out from laughing at this entire statement.
Posted on 10/14/09 at 4:18 pm to LSUdm21
Goodness. Replacing JJ with JL without changing some scheme's or the OL playing better won't make a difference.
There are more than just 1 problem with this offense. I see problems with the OL, the QB, the RB's at times, the WR at times. The bad part seems to be it's different players on different plays.
That being said, I would put JL (I would have since game 1) for a series a game at least. Especially once we saw the struggles that JJ was having. But, I'm not at practice. Maybe the coaches see something that we don't and that's why he's not playing.
RS is different. His talent should be utilized and it should be for more than 1 or 2 plays a game.
No doubt JJ was struggling against Fla. But, go out on a Calif. freeway and jump in the middle and try to avoid cars while attempting to pass. You'd look the same way. The kids head is going 100 miles an hour out there. Hopefully, the game will start to slow down some for him or the coaches will just make some changes and stick to stuff he's more comfortable with.
There are more than just 1 problem with this offense. I see problems with the OL, the QB, the RB's at times, the WR at times. The bad part seems to be it's different players on different plays.
That being said, I would put JL (I would have since game 1) for a series a game at least. Especially once we saw the struggles that JJ was having. But, I'm not at practice. Maybe the coaches see something that we don't and that's why he's not playing.
RS is different. His talent should be utilized and it should be for more than 1 or 2 plays a game.
No doubt JJ was struggling against Fla. But, go out on a Calif. freeway and jump in the middle and try to avoid cars while attempting to pass. You'd look the same way. The kids head is going 100 miles an hour out there. Hopefully, the game will start to slow down some for him or the coaches will just make some changes and stick to stuff he's more comfortable with.
Posted on 10/14/09 at 4:56 pm to Lee Chatelain
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Neither did the great JaMarcus Russell.
Russell actually moved around the pocket fairly well at LSU.
Posted on 10/14/09 at 4:59 pm to MandevilleLSUTiger
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I like Lee versus Bama for one reason- he saw them last year.
WHAT??? Yeah he saw them, single handedly lost that game.
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