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re: Why some people are pissed

Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:29 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292997 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:29 am to
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I’m telling you, “Woody” just killed the program.


You drama queens are so dumb.

Will Wade is 100% to blame.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
21666 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:35 am to
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So what was StAug’s previous handle


Someone in another thread figured out he's an Aggie. Just look at his history. A 9-9 record for LSU was going to keep us out of the tournament but he's riding Buzz Williams' dick because A&M being left out is the biggest robbery in history to him. Buzz Williams who was winless against Will Wade, who is apparently the worst bench coach you've ever seen.
Posted by JHorton71
Member since May 2021
120 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:40 am to
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And I loved every second of it. Do you honestly believe 90% of the big time schools you can think of aren’t paying for kids?


So it's ok to cheat as long as it benefits you right? Oh and if you get caught cheating and are punished it's not fair right? That's the Millineal thinking right now. There is no love for sports anymore. It's has all become a whoring process
Posted by JHorton71
Member since May 2021
120 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:44 am to
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Also we pump a lot of money into the program and never get the full truth. You know what this University is not run by a private organization.



Actually you're wrong about that. The university does not pay for athletics. As a matter of fact the athletic department used to pay the university until one of the professors complained. To the tune of 10-14 million a year as a matter of fact. The university and athletic department are actually seperate from each other and LSU athletics support themselves.
Posted by JHorton71
Member since May 2021
120 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:46 am to
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We can legally buy players now. So now we can buy 5*s and have a coach that knows how to coach.


You still can't buy players. I really hope you're not an LSU grad.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12521 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:48 am to
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Because Wade brought life into a dead program

He brought some swagger back and he demanded effort from his players

He brought back the dunking tiger, wanted to play games at the ag center, etc.

There was an energy, a buzz, around the program

So when you see people defending Wade, IMO they aren’t defending the man, they are defending that energy everyone has been desperate for and will now likely go away as LSU leadership goes back to being ok with mediocre results for the basketball program as long as football is ok.


As much as they dont seem to like each other, WW and Dale Brown had a lot of similarities.
Posted by StAugFLTiger
Member since Jan 2022
1505 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:50 am to
Apparently you didn't watch a&m down the stretch... winning 8 our of 9 including destroying bama @ bama, destroying Florida, Auburn, and Arkansas in a row. Idgaf about a&m. They got hosed though. I've also heard it all over tv. Just be honest, you haven't watched them over the last 3-4 weeks.
This post was edited on 3/15/22 at 9:52 am
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
102919 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:58 am to
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StAugFLTiger

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you didn't watch a&m down the stretch... winning 8 our of 9

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Idgaf about a&m. They got hosed though.

Oops

Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 10:00 am to
He’s a die hard Aggie fan. It’s hilarious how he lusts after buzz lol
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
102919 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 10:14 am to
That is interesting. What's Buzz's record vs Will Wade again?
Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
4857 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 10:15 am to
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Woodward had no choice but to try and mitigate the damage.


The NCAA won't lessen its sanctions against LSU just due to the fact that Woodward fired Wade. There is established precedent on this.

Some of you may disagree, but I truly think Wade could have "weathered the storm" and ultimately "right the ship" while LSU is under NCAA violations, sanctions, etc. He's a very good coach, a great recruiter, the players love him, etc.
This post was edited on 3/15/22 at 10:37 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292997 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 10:16 am to
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but I truly believe that I think Wade could "weather the storm" and ultimately "right the ship"


Then you clearly don't totally understand the allegations.

Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 10:18 am to
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What's Buzz's record vs Will Wade again?

exactly. But he knows this time will be different. It’s fun watching him say that lol
Posted by Cracking
Northshore
Member since Aug 2006
3510 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 10:31 am to
I posted this in another thread, and sorry for the long repost, but My .02:

From LSU's statement,

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Throughout that time, the University and its men’s basketball program have operated under an exhausting shroud of negativity.


This line kills me!

This is basically saying that LSU's decision makers are giving in to the pressure from the media! The NCAA has been mostly silent and not continuously hammering LSU. It's the media that's pursuing Will Wade and LSU basketballs' demise with an odd obsession! But why?!?!

It's obvious what's happening!!! WW was out there working his arse off in the shady world of college basketball recruiting, and having success using the same tactics the "big boys" use. The blue bloods who've always done this are getting pissed, and they're using their proxies to turn the screws on LSU's administration. They're using both the media and people with connections in the recruiting world to "investigate" or more realistically blackmail WW. Using the spouse/girlfriend of a player for blackmail/entrapment because of a "trainer" pushing for information?!?! Or how'd another school land that player from Memphis offered the $50k? I guess he just really LOVED the other school!

UNC can do what they want which is to cheat academically and likely pay players to land their commitment over other blue bloods! How about the Duke/Zion situation? Kansas?...

I have no attachment to WW as a coach other than the fact his players seem to really like him, he's landing top 20 recruiting classes, he has LSU competing in the top 5-6 teams in a major conference, he's injected energy back into the program like the OP says and he has his team in 3 consecutive NCAATs. I think many of us agree he's not the best Xs&Os coach, but he's good enough to win a lot, especially if he can get the right mix of talent which I thought next year would be the year!!!

WW is definitely at fault though. I can't defend his reported/alleged actions when they are not allowed. His biggest mistake was not distancing himself from connections to the violations. Those same violations that all of the big boys pull off without relentless media attacks. He was too involved which is probably why his players like him and his haters hate him. The big boys are used to landing recruits without the personal investment in the players, just the transaction! WW is who he is. He wants to coach and win at the highest level doing what the highest level programs do, but he also seems to really care about his recruits/players.

What I am pissed about is LSU is on the cusp of potential basketball glory, but the administration just rolls under the pressure while the traditional programs just stonewall and keep winning!

I guess LSU is sacrificing basketball to preserve football?
This post was edited on 3/15/22 at 1:00 pm
Posted by Thorny
Montgomery, AL
Member since May 2008
2181 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 11:26 am to
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A lot of people don’t understand that energy part



This!!

The Trent Johnson and Johnny Jones teams were hard to watch when they won. Very ugly basketball.

Wade at least had teams that fought hard and played with energy. Makes it a fun evening.

GEAUX TIGERS!
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 12:28 pm to
Well, if those some people are pissed, they should be pissed at Will.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19672 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 12:36 pm to
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What I am pissed about is LSU is on the cusp of potential basketball glory
are we really? And what's your definition of "glory?"
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but the administration just rolls under the pressure
have you read the allegations? They're damning. It's best for the administration to get in front of this to try to lessen the NCAA penalties.
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while the traditional programs just stonewall and keep winning
do the traditional programs have coaches that get caught on tape, on text, and pay through their own personal account? I'm not saying the blue bloods are clean, but the massive difference is the evidence against them doesn't come back to the coaching staff. But it clearly does in Wade's case. That's why we're here.
Posted by Cracking
Northshore
Member since Aug 2006
3510 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 1:21 pm to
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do the traditional programs have coaches that get caught on tape, on text, and pay through their own personal account? I'm not saying the blue bloods are clean, but the massive difference is the evidence against them doesn't come back to the coaching staff. But it clearly does in Wade's case. That's why we're here.


No and Yes! The buck always stops with the head coach. How do boosters know who to offer $$ to? And Yes, Wade was too personally involved and his biggest mistake was not creating plausible deniability with middle men! But IMO, it's far worse for a program to have cheating within the program that's not directly tied to a hungry young coach. It basically means those schools have a CULTURE of bending the rules to keep up, but since they're the traditional powerhouse teams, their coaches are glorified for winning and given a pass by the NCAA/media for similar allegations.

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are we really? And what's your definition of "glory?"


3 NCAAT in row with 4/5* incoming blue chip recruits and returning talent was setting LSU up for one of their SEC championship/final 4 type runs which IMO is pretty damn glorious for a southern "football/baseball" school! Who knows the ripple effect that type of season would have with a hungry young coach that connects with his players?!?! I was thinking if WW can survive the NCAA/Media, he could build a legit dynasty as his coaching matures, but that was obviously a big IF!

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have you read the allegations? They're damning. It's best for the administration to get in front of this to try to lessen the NCAA penalties.


Not all of them, but I have read about the girl's car payment and the $50K to the Memphis recruit along with the "strong arse offer." WW screwed up with the cavalier way he attached himself to the impermissible benefits! Definitely deserved some punishment, but canning him doesn't fix anything unless you think WW is a bad coach/person, and that he will continue to use the same recruiting tactics in the age of NIL.
This post was edited on 3/15/22 at 1:23 pm
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
4219 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 2:40 pm to
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I don't know why you little bitches have to lie.
Damn, it's the next day and I bet your cheeks are still red and sore.
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