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Why Not Steal Second?

Posted on 6/4/24 at 5:32 am
Posted by McVick
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/4/24 at 5:32 am
I'll preface this post by admitting I barely watched any regular season games.

In the 8th inning after Travinski reached base, there seemed to be no attempt to steal 2nd. The game was tied and there was one out. It was lefty pitcher vs lefty batter, and if I recall the pitcher was pitching low and away.

Steal second. Deep fly ball advances the runner to 3rd. Now they're ina situation where a base hit or error scores a run.

So, why was there no attempt at stealing 2nd? Is the UNC catcher that good at throwing out runners? Is the lefty pitcher too scary to run on? Does LSU just not steal bases? It didn't make much sense to me knowing the situation.
Posted by USAFTiger42
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2016
3690 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 5:36 am to
Jay isn't one to steal bases and especially if a player like Trav is on base.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
81765 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 5:40 am to
Stealing on a lefty? Thats no gimme, which is what we need that to be to steal. And the game wasnt tied in the 8th
Posted by McVick
Member since Jan 2011
4602 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 5:41 am to
Trav was pulled for a pinch runner. Which made the situation even more baffling to me. If a player is pulled for a pinch runner at 1st with the score tied, I'm thinking stealing 2nd is the primary goal.
Posted by McVick
Member since Jan 2011
4602 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 5:45 am to
Sorry, thanks for the correction. This happened in the bottom of the 9th instead of the 8th.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
81765 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 5:49 am to
The primary goal is scoring the run on a hit, which travinski may not do if youve seen him.
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
4436 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 5:50 am to
quote:

I'm thinking stealing 2nd is the primary goal.


Not really. Coach could be thinking about going 1st to 3rd on a single or scoring from 2nd, provided he made it that far. Bingham was the pinch runner. He had two steals all year and a lefty was in the mound. Not good odds.
Posted by xtremecouture23
Pineville
Member since Sep 2010
966 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 5:50 am to
Bingham pinch ran for Travinski.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
81765 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 5:52 am to
And yet stealing off a lefty, and stealing in general against hugh level teams is tough. There is reason most teams dont steal much anymore
This post was edited on 6/4/24 at 6:03 am
Posted by McVick
Member since Jan 2011
4602 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 6:06 am to
quote:

Coach could be thinking about going 1st to 3rd on a single or scoring from 2nd, provided he made it that far. Bingham was the pinch runner. He had two steals all year and a lefty was in the mound. Not good odds.


I guess this helps answer part of my question. Bingham being 2 for 5 on stolen base attempts isn't great, and I agree the lefty pitcher increases the chance of being picked off. However, there were multiple pitches down and to the left of the catcher.

It seemed to me the odds of winning increased if Bingham steals 2nd, and conditions were there for a successful attempt. Game was tied, LSU was the home team. It wouldn't have been the worst decision Coach Jay would have made in the game.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
47823 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 6:16 am to
quote:

Bingham pinch ran for Travinski.

Couldn’t understand why not Kling there
Posted by TigerFanNSTC
Member since Sep 2019
80 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 6:22 am to
I agree especially since UNC had a back-up in at catcher since they PH for the freshman catcher earlier in the game.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30369 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 6:30 am to
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Couldn’t understand why not Kling there
He was already in the game.
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
11477 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:08 am to
It wasn't that he should have stolen 2nd, but if Bingham would have read the ball in the dirt he could have advanced on the ball the catcher dropped. A good PR should have been on 2nd
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
13385 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:15 am to
quote:

Why Not Steal Second?

quote:

It was lefty pitcher vs lefty batter


There’s one reason
Posted by McVick
Member since Jan 2011
4602 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:19 am to
quote:

There’s one reason


Counter: It's a tied game in the bottom of the 9th with one out and a pinch runner on 1st. Lefty pitcher is throwing down away to a lefty batter with a backup catcher behind the plate.

Gotta try something. Going 1st to 3rd still requires two hits to win the game. Stealing 2nd gets a RISP. Be aggressive.

Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
11890 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:24 am to
quote:

Jay isn't one to steal bases


This! Analytical coaching does not lend itself to risky play. Potential outs are too precious
Posted by AscensionTiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jun 2004
4418 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:28 am to
Bingham was 2-5 on the year stolen bases this year, you can't risk it in that situation, it's just not LSU's game.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
64470 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:36 am to
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There is reason most teams dont steal much anymore


What if Dave Roberts would have been scared to make the last out of the American League Championship Series at second base?

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