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Why is Jay Johnson a candidate?

Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:53 pm
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:53 pm
Year1: 49 wins (CWS runner-up)
Year2: 38 wins (NCAA regional)
Year3: 34 wins (didn’t make tourney)
Year4: 32 wins (didn’t make tourney)
Year5: Covid
Year6: This year: back to CWS

First 4 years at Zona were a clear downward trajectory, which is very concerning for me. I’d prefer to see a coach’s 1st/2nd year be the worst and getting gradually better from there forward. Great coaches typically improve after their first year, not the pattern here with Johnson at Arizona.

IMO we have better options than Johnson. I’ll be a tad disappointed if he is the hire.

And that’s not even getting into the West-coast-lifer discussion. (Born in Cali, has always coached out West).
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:54 pm to
He's not.
Posted by Genestealer55
ARLINGTON
Member since May 2017
7791 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:55 pm to
He made it to Omaha...duh
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
27036 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:56 pm to
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He's not.


Good. I hope you are right.

LINK: Arizona AD comments on Johnson being linked to LSU job
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 1:58 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
76164 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:56 pm to
My concern would be him being a west coast guy.

Andy Lopez was a phenomenal coach. Didn’t do much at Florida but won a CWS at Pepperdine and then Arizona.
Posted by Drakeo1990
Member since Mar 2015
308 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:57 pm to
I think the only reason his name is coming up is because they are in Omaha right now. Same thing with O'Conner other than his ties to PM.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
17138 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:01 pm to
I think his inconsistency at Arizona is certainly cause for concern, but he's made it to Omaha twice in 6 years, which is pretty impressive I guess. Also, it should be noted that Arizona is not some trash program, they have great facilities and won a national title in 2012 before Jay was on campus.

He has done well at multiple stops though, his players love him, he can recruit his arse off, and I like the style of ball his teams play with.
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 2:01 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285294 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:02 pm to
How many times will you post this
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
12070 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:05 pm to
It’s Jay Johnson. He has made it to the CWS 2/5 full seasons. You can go look at the two bad years and you’ll see they were restocking the program which had become relying on juco transfers. It was essentially laid bare. It took two full cycles to restock.

You’re ridiculous if you don’t want Jay Johnson. He is young, knows how to recruit and his players enjoy him. His teams all particularly hit well.
Posted by whitefoot
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:05 pm to
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How many times will you post this


Thanks. I thought I had read this post somewhere before.
Posted by tigerfanz
Brusly, LA
Member since Mar 2007
36 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:06 pm to
He is officially available to interview for the position at around 4:30pm CST prior to flying back to Arizona.
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Member since Feb 2006
12444 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:11 pm to
Glenn Guilbeau- geez
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
27036 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:14 pm to
I just do not want Johnson. I can’t think of any examples of good/great coaches declining their first 4 seasons on a major job

If you have some examples to the contrary, please point them out, I just can’t think of any
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
12070 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:15 pm to
I look forward to your melt. The only candidate thrown out there that’s worth a hard no was Bianco.
Posted by Leadhead
Member since Jan 2013
887 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:17 pm to
Seems to me he is one of the best talent evaluators, recruiters and developers in the country if you look at his career resume dating back to his Kris Bryant days at USD.

Directed Arizona to a 49-24 record in his first season at the school and an appearance in the College World Series Finals
First coach in Arizona history to lead team to NCAA Tournament in each of his first two seasons
Became the 5th coach ever and first since 1994 to lead a team to the College World Series Finals in his first year at that school
2016 ABCA West Region Coach of the Year
Coached 26 Arizona players selected in the 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2019 Major League Baseball Drafts
Led Arizona to 49 wins in his first season, the second-most in program history
Eight players – Cody Ramer, Nathan Bannister, Zach Gibbons, JJ Matijevic, Alfonso Rivas, Jared Oliva, Nick Quintana, and Cameron Cannon – earned All-America honors under Johnson in his four seasons at Arizona
Led Nevada to 72-42 record in two seasons
2015 Mountain West Coach of the Year
Led Nevada to 41 wins in 2015 (second-most in program history).
Won school’s first-ever Mountain West Conference championship in 2015.
Wolf Pack players won the league’s Player of the Year, Pitcher of the Year & Freshman of Year accolades in 2015.
Two players garnered All-America honors and a third was named a freshman All-American in 2015.
Nevada finished 2015 top-five nationally in batting and scoring.
Wolf Pack drew first-ever home sellout in 2015.
Helped USD make six postseason trips from 2006-13.
Coached 2013 Dick Howser Award Winner Kris Bryant, the No. 2 overall selection in the 2013 draft and a current rising star for the Chicago Cubs.
Helped sign No. 1 recruiting class in 2008 and No. 2 class in 2010 at San Diego (Baseball America).
Led PLNU to a 37-14 record as head coach in 2005.
Previously worked as an assistant and led program to NAIA World Series in 2004.
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 2:58 pm
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
27036 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:17 pm to
I won’t melt, just definitely think we have better options than Johnson.

You have been saying for days that it’s gonna be Johnson. You have connections/sources or is that just your prediction?

I’ll get on board with any hire in relatively short order whether I like the hire or not.
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 2:25 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285294 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:19 pm to
How is it a decline if he’s in the CWS this year

Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
27036 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:19 pm to
First 4 years
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285294 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:24 pm to
I know 1 CWS in 20 years wasn’t great but damn yall have some weird standards When Johnson has been twice in 5 seasons

Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
12070 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:26 pm to
Straight up insanity. I think some people are going to have a hard time realizing LSU Baseball isn’t the end all be all for some coaches on the backend of their careers.
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 2:27 pm
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