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re: Why haven't we installed some sort of Wildcat package for Shep?
Posted on 4/28/12 at 8:38 pm to Mr LSU2001
Posted on 4/28/12 at 8:38 pm to Mr LSU2001
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Have you ever played the Game
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Like i stated earlier, and since i am in a certain occupation close to the conversation.
Oh, we got a badass up in here.
You ever heard of putting a package in for special circumstances, trick plays, something just to throw off the D, make them stay honest, decoys?
Wait....are you Les Miles?
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Posted on 4/28/12 at 8:44 pm to Festus
not a badass just saying i am in the same business and am tring to explain from a coaches point of view and not a arm chair guy who has no clue about football...i wish i was les miles i would be a rich man... And yes i have and i stated if shep was a top 2 guy on offense you would do this but.... He is not.... you have at least 5 other player that are ahead of him that you want with the ball...
Beckham (already a better player)
Ware( need your brusier)
Hilliard
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Ford
Randle(last year, now landry has passed him)
So we are going to put a package in for our 6th bst offensive player who can't master the position he plays.... That would not be smart coaching... Again if he would be a top 2 offensive guy then yes... But shep has not become that... Sorry but anyone who know anything about football would see that... Shep has struggled since he has been here. He shows rare flashes but not someone you put a package in for....
Beckham (already a better player)
Ware( need your brusier)
Hilliard
Blue
Ford
Randle(last year, now landry has passed him)
So we are going to put a package in for our 6th bst offensive player who can't master the position he plays.... That would not be smart coaching... Again if he would be a top 2 offensive guy then yes... But shep has not become that... Sorry but anyone who know anything about football would see that... Shep has struggled since he has been here. He shows rare flashes but not someone you put a package in for....
This post was edited on 4/28/12 at 8:50 pm
Posted on 4/28/12 at 8:50 pm to Mr LSU2001
For a coach, you would think that you'd realize that Shephard is faster than anybody on that list, plus can throw the ball a hell of a lot better than any of them.
No one's arguing he should be an everydown player in place of them, or that he should be a starting QB. But to believe that there could not be one play designed to utilize Shep's speed, and possibly his throwing ability, to be used in a situation when a big play is needed? Come on, man, one doesn't have to be a "coach" like you to see that.
No one's arguing he should be an everydown player in place of them, or that he should be a starting QB. But to believe that there could not be one play designed to utilize Shep's speed, and possibly his throwing ability, to be used in a situation when a big play is needed? Come on, man, one doesn't have to be a "coach" like you to see that.
Posted on 4/28/12 at 9:01 pm to Festus
quote:have to be a "coach" like you to see that.
For a coach, you would think that you'd realize that Shephard is faster than anybody on that list, plus can throw the ball a hell of a lot better than any of them.
No one's arguing he should be an everydown player in place of them, or that he should be a starting QB. But to believe that there could not be one play designed to utilize Shep's speed, and possibly his throwing ability, to be used in a situation when a big play is needed? Come on, man, one doesn't
Wow so as a coach i should worry about 40 times and not what happpen on the field..... Never said shep wasn't fast.... He is but Fast doesn't make you a playmaker..... It helps but last i checked Ford is not slow and as a coach i will take a kid that might run 4.5 or 4.4 that makes plays on the field were the game is played... and not put in a package in for the 4.3 or 4.4 guy who hasn't made many... Mabe as a coach you would consider it if he had masterd his JOB..... ever heard a coach say do you job... as a coach i would let shep work on his trade and not try to be gimmicky when i don't have to.....
This post was edited on 4/28/12 at 9:03 pm
Posted on 4/28/12 at 9:04 pm to Mr LSU2001
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He is but Fast doesn't make you a playmaker..
Yeah, Shep has not ever shown that he's a playmaker.
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It helps but last i checked Ford is not slow and as a coach i will take a kid that might run 4.5 or 4.4 that makes plays on the field were the game is played... and not put in a package in for the 4.3 or 4.4 guy who hasn't made many...
Nice job deflecting and ignoring the entire point about using Shep in certain circumstances, and trying to argue that Ford is a better RB, "coach".
Posted on 4/28/12 at 9:15 pm to Festus
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He is but Fast doesn't make you a playmaker..
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Yeah, Shep has not ever shown that he's a playmaker.
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It helps but last i checked Ford is not slow and as a coach i will take a kid that might run 4.5 or 4.4 that makes plays on the field were the game is played... and not put in a package in for the 4.3 or 4.4 guy who hasn't made many...
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Nice job deflecting and ignoring the entire point about using Shep in certain circumstances, and trying to argue that Ford is a better RB, "coach".
Never said he never made plays.. He has flashes...And is best in open space if you were to use Shep in anyway you use him in bubble screens... get him away from the big bodies were he can use his speed... and most wild cat passes don't go very well.. So if you want to use him use him in the screen game, that way not running inside.... Use the RB's for that.... which was the point of why take carries away from them.... Use him in his position...
This post was edited on 4/28/12 at 9:17 pm
Posted on 4/29/12 at 10:31 am to Tiger Authority
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I just think it's indicative of how pathetic our fanbase can be when they manage to take a random Saturday out of the year to conjure up the ability to complain and whine over something that is over, will never change, and was fricking fine and dandy for an entire regular season but one loss in the biggest game of the year to a better team and all of a sudden it's months and months of revisionist history "could'a would'a should'a" from our fanbase.
This isn't based on 1/9. I was just asking a simple question about adding something to our VANILLA offense (If you don't think our offense is vanilla something is wrong with you). Shep is a great talent that has been very underutilized and every time we did use him on an end around or out of the backfield we got big yards so my question is why haven't we done this more.
Posted on 4/29/12 at 10:46 am to LSUTil_iDie
Why haven't we installed some sort of Wildcat package for Shep..
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Posted on 4/29/12 at 10:52 am to LSUTil_iDie
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Shep is a great talent
He is far from a great and underutilized talent. Best to let him concentrate on developing into a solid reciever.
Posted on 4/29/12 at 11:13 am to Mr LSU2001
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have to be a "coach" like you to see that. Wow so as a coach i should worry about 40 times and not what happpen on the field..... Never said shep wasn't fast.... He is but Fast doesn't make you a playmaker..... It helps but last i checked Ford is not slow and as a coach i will take a kid that might run 4.5 or 4.4 that makes plays on the field were the game is played... and not put in a package in for the 4.3 or 4.4 guy who hasn't made many... Mabe as a coach you would consider it if he had masterd his JOB..... ever heard a coach say do you job... as a coach i would let shep work on his trade and not try to be gimmicky when i don't have to.....
+1000
Posted on 4/29/12 at 11:15 am to Bernie Moore
Saving it for Sheps senior year against Alabama.
Les has to be sure that noone is prepared for the super secret playbook.
Posted on 4/29/12 at 11:23 am to TheBob
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Oregon type zone read/option stuff.
Please explain who Shep would read.Kind of difficult for a pro style offensive line to switch to an Oregon offense w/o changing lineman.In your playing days did ya'll switch frm power I to spread during a game using the same people?
Posted on 4/29/12 at 11:35 am to Bernie Moore
With the offensive minds we have on this team, I just hope for a decent passing game. Option and bubble screen FTW!!
Posted on 4/29/12 at 12:05 pm to LSUTil_iDie
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Or some Percy Harvin type plays? Seems like it would be a nice addition to our offense.
Because he's not that good. If he was a three star out of HS you'd be complaining that he's taking up a scholarship. You're just star-gazing. In the meantime we have great players at his position who were not rated as high...like OBJ.
Posted on 4/29/12 at 5:09 pm to Mr LSU2001
Let me take you back to Nov. 5...remember that play that Bama ran with Marquis Maze (that got picked off by Eric Reid but that's beside the point). Our defense looked confused as hell and it probably would have gone for 6 had Reid not made that play on the ball. That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about in addition to the jet sweeps and such. I'm not saying bring him in as a full time RB/QB just in certain situations when we need a spark.
Posted on 4/29/12 at 5:19 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
B/c we don't need it to win.
Posted on 4/29/12 at 5:25 pm to LSUTil_iDie
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Let me take you back to Nov. 5...remember that play that Bama ran with Marquis Maze (that got picked off by Eric Reid but that's beside the point). Our defense looked confused as hell and it probably would have gone for 6 had Reid not made that play on the ball. That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about in addition to the jet sweeps and such. I'm not saying bring him in as a full time RB/QB just in certain situations when we need a spark.
So your example is an interception? When Bama had just run the ball inside our 30, has the best running back in the conference and one of the top players in the draft, and home field advantage, you would have been happy had this call been made because we looked "confused?"
Posted on 4/29/12 at 5:30 pm to LSUTil_iDie
Because Les Miles is an idiot. After the 09 ole miss frick up if you have not come
To that conclusion you are blind.
To that conclusion you are blind.
Posted on 4/29/12 at 6:11 pm to Tiger Authority
But we don't have Trent Richardson and our offense stalls out more times than not so why the hell not? We can't rely on TM7 or our defense to provide a spark every time our offense struggles so why not throw in a couple plays for a potential playmaker?
Posted on 4/29/12 at 7:16 pm to LSUTil_iDie
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our offense stalls out more times than not so why the hell not?
because we don't need more plays that don't work. We need more plays that do work.
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